Memorial Contributions to Remember Missing Girls

I hope they have just run away for a few days and are not taken by some freak.

She said she had hoped to die with her lover or some weird crap. ABC 7 reported that.

Another Romeo and Juliet..except 2 Juliets.

Oh well, hopefully someone finds them.

Your comment was terribly insensitive. Please remember that these are the precious children of some very devastated and worried parents. I hope you are never faced with such a horrible situation.

that you would even comment with something like that. maybe you should have slept in some more instead of making a terrible insensitive comment like you did. I pray that you will never have to indure an ordeal like this.

... to chastise someone for calling an orange an orange. How is it insensitive to state the obvious? Maybe because it wasnt a carefully worded reply full of politically correct BS?

Yeah, I hope thier found, and I hope thier OK, but it doesnt change the fact that this is nothing more than another example of teenage stupidity.

...never stupid - especially to those feeling it.

They're not O.K. And I'll bet you money they were driven to this by some other insensitive idiot telling them their choice of lifestyles was not OK in one form or another.

Whomever made them feel this way, whether it was their parents or someone else, they should be ashamed and will have to live the rest of their lives knowing that they killed these two girls.

or their parents who, like most parents, are opposed to the G&L lifestyle.

i cannot believe how terribly inconsiderate, rude and heartless you are. I know the family of one of the girls, and she was a wonderful person from a wonderful family and you have no right to judge without knowing them, or anything about them. Hopefully nothing horrendous will happen in your life that will force you to go through the terrible ordeal both girls' families have been dealing with for the past few weeks. But if it does I hope that someone will treat your situation with the same respect and kindness that you gave to theirs.

This article started back when the story first started (2 runaway teens ).

A local news station reported Rachel Crites diary passage about wanting to be buried next to her true love or something no matter what happened.

That's when I posted my comment.

I only made reference about Romeo and Juliet - in regards to 2 lovers committing suicide. I am sorry that is what actually happened, but with what the media was reporting - it looked like it was heading that way - unless someone found them and could intervene.

The media also had reported enough to know Rachel Crites had some depression and wasn't always stable. If you couldn't see where it was heading ...

I'm sure there are other things in Rachel Crites diary that would shed a lot more on the whole situation.

Dear "Come get S."
I wonder, if someone examined your life up close, what kind of "weird crap" they would find.

Come Get S.
you have been spanked.

It is so very sad that almost every week one of our daughters or sons is missing, killed in a horrible auto accident, abducted, molested or much, much more. The culture we are raising our children in is scary in the least; I spoke with my 17 year old daughter this morning about these two beautiful girls; I hope they know they are loved by their parents and other parents that know of their missing.

My daughter has lost 5 classmates this year: 2 in a horrible accident; 1 got shot because he decided to live an unhealthy lifestyle; 1 to cancer and one because he was so depressed he hung himself.

All of these beautiful teenagers were 17-18 years old. Life had not begun.

My prayers will be said and repeated for both Rachaels....If you are out there and feel you are troubled - come home. It can all be worked out; and if there is some other reason you are not at home....then I plead to God our creator and father that he will truly stomp the devil and his Grace and Mercy will protect and bring you home.

Another Parent - SWF

Hopefully this won't have a tragic ending like Romeo & Juliet.

The girls and their families do not have to face this alone - there is the Trevor Project -

http://www.thetrevorproject.org/and SMYAL - http://www.smyal.org/that are there to support kids and families who are trying to sort out all the sexual identity issues that so many of us face.

Let's keep them in our prayers and hope they see some sign of this support.

Did they really need to print that extremely private diary entry? I cannot see how that will help convince these girls to return.

I TOTALLY agree. I find that completely irresponsible on the part of WTOP. It is irrelevant and, if these girls are struggling with their sexual orientation (or, more likely, the world's lack of acceptance of it), then this is not going to help at all. I wish the parents or the police would not have released that private thought of the teenager to herself in a troubled moment. Jeez. In general, I would like to say shame on our society for creating a situation where any teenager would have to feel anything but positive and proud of themselves for who they love or are attracted to. Shame on us.

I disagree. I think it's extremely important for us as a society to know when teens in trouble, particularly those who are depressed, are gay or lesbian. It's much more frequent for the media to suppress all references to any sexuality other than heterosexual. And I'd bet a large sum of money that neither WTOP nor any other media outlet would have hesitated to print the diary entry if it had referred to "him" rather than "her." Let's not make our queer teens invisible by omission.

Rachel Smith is my Sister. They didn't run away because of their sexuality. And we don't suspect they were abducted. But thank you for your help and prayers.

Hi Lindsay .... I can feel your love and care for your sister in your post. No matter what anyone else says, hold true to that, it is SO important! Your famlies' love for her is so clear ....

I hope and pray both girls are well and safe, wherever they are, and I hope they come home soon. With someone so powerfully on her side, she's got much to come home to :) You are all in thoughts and prayers, hang in there .....

And both Rachels, I hope you are safe and can read these .... nothing is impossible .... and a whole community loves and supports both of you ... e-mails are going like crazy hoping someone finds you both safe and sound, you are loved and cared for by so many more than you may ever know ....

I am the advisor of Rachel's BBYO chapter. Last night the girls all expressed how much they are hoping for a safe return as am I. Please let us know if there is anything we can do for you and your family.

we got the notice down here in florida. we've passed the email around to everyone we know. if someone can get a message to them, please let them know of tampa chaverot ( www.tampachaverot.com ) we will hook them up with our local rabbi, and help in anyway that we can. we are praying for them, and their families. if the girls would like to reach us directly, they can write to tampachaverot@hotmail.com

Lindsay;
I have posted posted numerous bulletins via myspace and have been receiving so many replies with wishes of a safe return, etc. Many of the people have also reposted my information to their friends. The word is getting spread out quickly. I am doing what I can from down here to help locate Rachel and her friend Rachel. Grandma and Granpa and I are all very concerned for both girls safety, and safe return home.
We should keep positive thoughts that the girls will return home soon safe and sound. I love you all very much! Email me if you like.
Uncle Bruce

I would first like to say our heart goes out to the family and friends of the girls. Their suicide has affected more then their family and friends. My husband is one of the guy's that was 4 wheels and found the car along the power line. Our home is really close to where they were found. This has been really upsetting to our family too.( we have a 11 year old son ) Suicide can touch people you don't even know. I whish we could had known they were right there, could had tried to stop them. Had called the police before it was to late.
Sorry for your lost. Terry

this is not something to make light of these girls need to be found, and their families and friends and community need support not careless comments like you have made. lindsay please know we are here for you your dear sister and your family.

My thoughts are with both girls and their families during this challenging time. I hope they find the road to happiness for all.

Lindsay...tell your mom that her "old" roommate and her sorority sisters at the UofMaryland are issuing a nationwide alert to return Rachel safely. Our thoughts and prayers are with both families to bring the girls home. Roses Mary S-B

Rachels, if you're reading this, please know that you've got a ton of support from people far and wide here in DC. Your sister stated that this doesn't have anything to do with your sexuality. I hope she's right.

Either way, know that there are folks here who are gay and religious and we are praying for you. If there's anything we can do, please let us know. We have all gone through that type of transition - it's hard but it can be done. We wish you all the luck and strength.

Rachel, this is Mr. and Mrs. Mason from next door at the lake. Please come home! Whatever you are struggling with is a temporary problem that can be worked out in time. You have so many people who care about you very much and want to help you so please come home. We all look forward to sharing warm days on the lake with you this summer!

It seems the parents might not approve of them being lesbians. That's what the story hints at without saying it. And then it goes on to say they stayed together with both sets of parents’ permission???

Confusing but I bet the poor girls have to put up with a LOT not just from society but from their parents too. Their parents should love them if they are gay, straight, bi, or whatever. If my daughter came home and said she was in love with a woman I'd be concerned for her in regards to society's reaction, not my own. As long as she's happy and healthy then so am I.

It's their children and above all they should support them. I feel bad about them having to go to this extreme. And I pray they come home OK soon.

JJ

Mr. JJ - You have got it wrong. They spent a day together immediately after (their last exam day) the academic work load (exams etc). There is nothing beyond it when you read about "Parent's permission".

I am absolutely insulted that you would assume that my family is not accepting. The news hints at things all the time to make the story better and more appealing to the public. That does not make it true. First of all, my sisters sexuality was unknown until we found that journal entry. Second of all WHO CARES if they like girls or boys? The important thing is just having someone to love. You people are always looking to blame the families. Always looking for controversy. Focus on the issue- getting them home safe and sound. This ordeal has NOTHING to do with whom or how these girls love and care for others.

You know your sister and your family and that's all that matters. Ignore those people that believe everything they read in the media. My hope and prayers are that they safely return home soon! Keep the faith!

The problem with the internet is people can say things anonymously they would never say to your face. Please pay no heed to morons who "think" they know what your family feels about their girls and whatever issues they might be dealing with.

I hope they come home to you soon. If it's any consolation, if they stay in the Charles Town, WV area people there will notice AND contact authorities. That's an area that still has a sense of community (I lived there for 10 years).

Lindsay, I wanted the famlies to know that in the Charles Town area. I received an email from containing the WTOP link and Info on the Rachels including the info on the car and tag #. It has been forwarded to 100's of parents and teens in the area. We have been going to Fast Food places and will keep getting the word out in case they are still in this area. RACHELS' if you see this PLEASE know that your sister, friends, teachers...there are alot of people that you both have impacted that NEED to know that you are OK, just a word, otherwise they have to think what IF. What IF they need us to keep looking and we stop...please understand why they, we, everyone can't stop until you tell us you both are ok.
Becky S.

Who says the parents don't love or approve of their children? The girls did not "have" to "go to this extreme". We all know how we felt as young people: "My parents would kill me if they knew such and such!" Actually, parents might yell or cry, which is unpleasant enough, but few parents would kill their children or disown them or throw them out of the house. Yes, of course there are some who do, unfortunately. But the parents of these girls have not been described as cold fish who have rejected their daughters. Let's not judge them.

I apologize if it was taken that way. I DID NOT ASSUME ANYTHING. I read what the article fed me. That is the only thing I can go on. Like I said according to the article "It seems the parents might not approve of them being lesbians." I was simply reading the article and trying to figure out it's meaning. The article makes it sound like they came out and then were rejected and ran away (This happened in my family so I know what I am talking about). I am glad to know that is not the case, and the article SHOULD make that very clear. It is very misleading to me.

I read the article and that's what I got out of it. I am not blaming the parents, I simply stated that I think parents need to love their kids even if they disagree with them.

Please don't take my letter the wrong way. I am glad to know that your family is accepting. That should make things a LOT easier.

As I said, I am sorry if I offended you, as it was not my intent. But the article needs to be cleared up.

JJ

I know both these kids thru my daughter. They both are great kids. Some of the information presented in the news has been taken by some of general public in a wrong sense. It just shows how emotional these two kids are and nothing else.

Both Rachels - if you are able to read or hear anything - please get in touch with your parents. They are worried and frantically trying to reach you both. Use any means possible but let them know - you both are safe as of this minute. They are struggling without knowing how you both are doing. All your friends and their family are working hard to spread word about your situation in the hope to get in touch with both of you. If you don't want to reach your parents, please get in touch with one of your friend and let them know you - both are safe.

I wish you both are safe. Come back to your family and friends as soon as possible. Our thoughts are with you and pray for your safe return to family and friends.

Our hopes and prayers are with the parents at this trying time.
We all hope for a happy ending.
Keep positive.

It never ceases to amaze me what young women will do when they are on their own.

Is this another "Runaway Bride", have they been "kidnapped" by some man with a Hispanic surname?

Will they surface in Vegas? Panama City, Fort Lauderdale?

Only time will tell.

How much money is being spent on a "search and rescue" for two nearly adult women who may be having the time of their lives.

The Juan and Only

The information released on this has not been particularly helpful.

Some published reports indicate the girls were believed to be in Charleston, WV... while others indicate Charles Town, WV. These two cities are over 300 miles apart.

The information released from the diary, while very personal and private, doesn't add anything that couldn't have better been described in a less revealing way. I guess they were trying to suggest her mental state, but a description would have been better.

I hope they come home safely.

I hope they find these girls safe and sound.

I hope these girls at least get in touch with their families and let them
know that they are safe and sound no matter what the reason was that they left.

Regardless of what the "diary entry" does or does not reveal my thoughts and prayers are with these 2 girls that they will not do anything rash or harmful to themselves if they are feeling distanced from their families.

I also will hope and pray for their families that this is resolved soon and that all parties involved are safe and sound.

Our eyes are on the look out for the Subaru.
You got friends in the 95 corridor.
Our prayers are with you for the girls' safe return.

Everyone around you loves you as you can see. Most of us support your decisions, but girls you need to be with your families. May God protect you! Please be safe!

It definitely seems to me that one or both of these girls were afraid of what would happen if their relationship were exposed. That's sad, and I hope they are able to feel the love and support they are getting.

and don't wanna return....

I have been through similar problems in my lifetime. I was outed as a lesbian in high school, and neither my parents nor my girlfriend's parents were too approving of it. However, you are perfectly normal and have so many opportunites facing you as young women. Please, don't do anything rash.

There are places you can go for shelter, and many GBLT clubs in the MD/DC/VA area have information regarding such places. I know that the bar I work at in MD has pamphlets inside the door with hostel and counseling numbers on it.

I know you love one another, and that this is your choice in life. But please, be safe. You two will be in my thoughts and prayers. Please, please be safe.

I wish the girls could have read this before it was too late.

I hope everyone who wrote stupid things on this site now feels a sense of guilt over running their mouths on a subject they know diddly about.

It is very difficut to hear news accounts and then later what seems to be retractions of these stories. When they disappeared, where they called from, what was said in the journal and all of the too obvious things that aren't being said or done makes it very hard to follow this story.

I am sure the families want these children home no matter what, but the story being told and retracted in the media certainly makes it seem that they don't want the help or rescources of the community.

Ignore those who only have judgemental things to say and let the rest of your supportive community do anything and everything to bring these girls home safely.

With love and prayers-a B'nai Tzetek member

The Smiths are a loving local family who, in their Bagelsmith days greeted each customer by name and with kindness. They opened their business to school kids for tours and through their community involvement saw plenty and werent shocked by teenage behavior. We live in a community where kids are reared to please. achieve and succeed. MOST teenagers underestimate parents' willingness to love their children unconditionally and fear disappointing the people who love them the most. I hope that this is the lesson the girls come to realize while they are away that will result in their return: to trust in that parental love and support no matter how bad things seem to be. In the meantime, lets remind our kids that we love them unconditionally despite their real or perceived imperfections. Rachel and Rachel will be okay....

It is very difficult to follow this story in the media. Things are said and then retracted. Now is not the time for judgement but for allowing the community to know what is going on, where to look and how to help.

We can't unknow the diary entry or forget that that phone call was placed from West Virginia. People who actually want to help these girls or help find these girls are not interested in their sexuality (except with respect to why it might have caused them to leave or be drawn to somewhere or someone)

Ignore the possibility that people might be judgemental and plaster the media with the right information and the correct places to be looking. DON'T LET THE MEDIA COVERAGE DIE DOWN. You have a supportive community with time, love and rescources. Don't be afraid to ask for help! We are here!

With love and prayers-a member of B'nai Tzedek

Lindsay, Bless your heart! I know from experience how missing children, no matter what the age, can do to a family. The news does sensationalize things all the time, just for better ratings. It's a shame and further hurts the families.
Please know I will keep both girls' and their families in my prayers.

God Bless!
Lori

I remember the first day i met rachel(smith), me and co workers were walking dogs and our boss showed her were we walked the boarded dogs...no less than a week or two, she was working there. and with the one day of working, the saturday crew loved her because she caught on quickly and no one ad any problem with her. A lot of our co workers had good laughs and fun with her. She seemed open, but if she didnt want u to know, she wasnt going to let any one know. we talked about families. and about ourselves. I remember we were laughing at how we thought a co workers of ours was short of brains. The last time I seen Rachel was on the Wendsday of that friday she was missing. i was so mad because rachel crites was there and rachel(smith) was promoted to work in the front on W.days and so rachel(crites) was allowed to stay there with her. and she stayed the whole day. and rachel(smith) got alittle controlling when crites was there. but i didnt blow up on her. i just gave her quick respondes when she asked and a mad and evil glare. but it didnt bug her, which is why i liked her nothing got to her, and i went outside and yelled on the phone to a friend about how mad i was at her. then, i went inside, go my things, and said bye to everyone. and that is the last time i talked to her. and i feel bad about how i treated her, but i do feel sorry for my feelings that day. i just should of handled it in another way
Rachel is a nice girl. and if her family had anything to do with her leaving, or the fact that people think her sexual orination had to do with anything, it shouldnt matter. Both of these beautiful and bright girls are hurting and they felt like they had to run away from something. and instead of some of u being rude and asking and saying all these horrid and mean things about them, start having respect for them and their families and co workers. to some of u, they are just crazy gay girls who up and left, but for the people who actually care and are truly concern, we love them, and really miss them, and pray that they DONT turn of like Juilet and Juilet. and can only hope for the best that we can. please give them and their families the respect they deserve and keep hurtful and painful comments to yourselves
To the Smiths and Crites, i am actually a co worker, i am april sims and i work at PK. i plan on doing the best i can to help. i plan on posting a picture of the girls on Myspace to help. thats the only way i know how, but figured it would be better than nothing. be strong and i pray for the best as you do.

Thank You
April Sims

I remember the first time I met Rachel(Smith). It was late July early August and me and our co workers were walking dogs. Our boss was showing her were we walk the dogs. I said hi and less than a week or two, she was working at the Kennel. Everyone got a long with her just fine. After one day of working there, she got good reports. A friend of mines who works there also said that she caught on rather quickly and was going to be easy to work with. She was funny and kind working there. Very excited, loved the animals. She even feel in love with an American Escamo. Her favorite type of dogs. Her eyes lit up and she just couldnt get enough of these dogs.
The last time I seen her was on the 17 of jan. I got mad at her because Rachel(Crites) was there and it seemed as those Rachel(Smith) was showing off and being in charge. She was promoted to work up front on W.days so Rachel(Crites) just stayed with her the whole day. I didnt blow up on her, but i did give her mean glares. I admit i handle it the wrong way by givng her mean looks. that i am sorry for, but i am not sorry for my fellings. I went outside to tell another co worker of our how i felt. and that was the last time i seen both of them.. i said bye to both, and went home.
Ive read some of the comments and it seems like some of you dont have much respect. it's like some of you are more excited about the story than the girls. These gils are funny and nice. And wither or not the family or thier sexual orintation had anything to do with them leaving, it shouldnt be the main thing focused on. it's getting these girls home and praying that everything is going to be okay and that nothing is going to happen to either on of them. So for some, please have respect for them and their families.
To the Smiths and Crites, I wish you all the best. I will do my best in helping as well. I will post a comment on Myspace to help. It's the best i can do, but its better than nothing. 2 other people who work at PK are also going to do the same thing. Once again, I wish you the best, and my prayers are out to the both you.

Thank You,
April Sims

This is Melissa's mom in Richmond. She told us today about your sister.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. I know we have not met yet, but Melissa speaks quite often of you. We are hoping for her safe return.

Rachael,if you are reading these "blogs".....You are so missed and loved,your family is so worried about the both of you.Your issues can be worked out. things cannot be so bad that you can not turn to your family,who have so much love and support for you!!!!You have such a "Beautiful" life ahead of you...."Please step back and think of what life has to offer"You"!I just wanted to send my love and support to you and rachael..If you need anything at all,I will help in anyway I can..This is your Aunt Beth...Your uncle paul's ex....You were always a kind little girl with those big beaiutiful brown eyes and that gorgeous brown curly hair..I am sure you are even sweeter and more kind then ever.If you need shelter,food,"anything"...Please let me know,We are there for you and your friend...Always and forever.Leo, ashley, and me, your aunt Beth.please be safe and very careful..We love you!!!!!

I used to live up in the WV panhandle. There are some nice people up there. Hopefully they have hooked up with the right people. Maybe things will work out better than anyone hopes.
Best Regards

My son ran away with his girlfriend when he was a senior. I was extremely upset until he returned over a week later. I don't think teens realize what they put their parents through until they have children of their own.

I pray for your family and hope they will at least contact you and let you know what their plans are. I don't think they realize the anguish their actions have caused.

Girls, if you can read this, DO THE RIGHT THING, call home. Please put yourself in your parents' shoes. Have a heart!!
Police, if you read this, look at this as more then a run away situation. Anything is possible. The girls may have started out this way, but someone could have taken them. I wonder if there would be more authorities taking interest if you would call look at this as foul play rather then just a run away situation? These girls are smart. I can't believe they would be this insensitive to their parents and not call in all these days. Rachel Crites is 18 years old and I don't think it is right that she is with Rachel Smith who is not 18 yet. Isn't this breaking the law if they are running away? Many things to consider here. I think the girls better head home to avoid anymore trouble.

Police, this may have started out as a run away situation but it is possible that someone has taken them or that they have been in an accident. If you were to look into this as foul play, would there be more authorities on this? If this is so, then I hope you consider looking into this as foul play instead.
Girls, I can't believe you would be this insensitive to your parents if you are in fact running away. Put yourself in their shoes. To raise a child and love them and take care of them and then lose them like this is something that they will never get over. It will ruin their life forever. Please girls, if you see this note, Do the right thing and come to your senses and realize that you have your whole life ahead of you and go home!!!

They can't do much if the children are out of state now.. you know the USA is pretty big!

This just happened in Baltimore this week. A 14-year-old left home and met up with two strangers. She was traced to a motel, then found today at a house in Baltimore. Ten people were arrested, police said she was the victim of a violent crime.

So, entreaties to go home without pledges of non-retribution aren't going to be effective....

Last week I had a very real like dream that two girls went missing, one girl of darker complexion than the other. It felt so real life, I was sure it would be on the news the next day, but nothing. I told my husband how strong the dream was and I had never had a dream like this before. I was very surprised to see it on the news last night. In the dream the girls were not in any danger and were found with a group of other girls on a street with older white houses grouped together and front porches. I hope the dream comes true all the way to the end. Good luck finding them.

Barbara S.,
Are you sure it was just a "dream?" This: "on a street with older white houses grouped together and front porches." describes Shenandoah Junction, WV which is about 5 miles from Charles Town, WV.

I've just moved here from the West coast and have never been to WV.

If one of them was named George or John, we'd call the disappearance an elopement, wouldn't we? Let's pray for the best on this, of course. But also remember that they obviously intend to be together, let's hope they do.

The old saying, always go with a buddy, applies here. Girls, if you're reading this, at least call the folks back home. A kid's voice can mean an awful lot to a worried parent. Also, please know that there is nothing quite as graphic as a parent's imagination.

As a gay couple, you may never realize that. Be safe, be smart, be grateful for your blessings.

is the lack of information dispursed to the community who could be looking for these girls. Not to be cruel but Rachel Smith's parents don't want to be interviewed?? What kind of message does that send them?

Of course you're are terrified for your daughter and her friend but you never know what small piece of information could bring them home. Now is not the time to hold back.

Every day I see this story getting buried deeper and deeper in the news. Don't let people forget. Your community is behind you.

Rachel Smith's parents should try to get on CNN with Nancy Grace or the Today Show. Let Rachel see how important she is. Let her know that it her choices and her feelings are respected and valued. One size does not fit all.

The important thing is to have her in a safe and loving environment. I hope and pray for both girls' safe return home.

The Smith's have been interviewed by NBC4 in Washington, and have made it clear that they want both girls home safely. This article just hasn't updated that fact. As a close friend of both girls and the family, I know that there is nothing any of us want more than for the Rachel's to be safely home again.

It is not a matter of lack of acceptance, of not fitting in, or anything else-we want them home safe where they belong with the people who love and support them no matter what.

Dear Rachel.....
I can hardly contain myself here in NY. As your parents oldest friends, we have known and loved you since you were born. Knowing how much you are loved and appreciated for who you are, we are confident that you will return home. There is NOTHING that you could do or be that would turn your family away from you. Tammy and Bree, Mark and I keep you in our thoughts and prayers each and every moment of the day. Please come home .
All our love,
Helene

I have read many of the insensitive comments on this forum and I hope to be excluded from them. However, I do wonder..

if the girls have not been abducted (which still might be a possibility? I hope the police will look into this matter as carefully as they can) then I wonder if they will be afraid to come home now that their photos and personal diary entries have been broadcasted all over local media. I am NOT suggesting that either family is unaccepting of the girls' sexuality - that is something I don't pretend to know. It just seems to me that all of this press will inevitably bring the girls under a terrible amount of scrutiny if they come home.. it will be hard for Rachel Smith to return to Wootton (where I am an alumna) and for Rachel Crites to return to MC. I worry that these girls may be less inclined to contact their parents and come back now that they have the scandal-hungry media and thousands of people in their communities to judge them.

That being said, I don't mean at all to imply that the Rachels' families or friends have done the wrong thing by spreading the word about their disappearance. This is the only thing that these families COULD have done and I applaud everyone who has thrown themselves into the recovery effort.

I am only hoping with all of my heart that they will come back home and I want to suggest anything that might persuade them to contact their loved ones. It seems to me that this might happen sooner if the attention dies down a little. Am I wrong to think so? I'm posting here to look for other thoughts on the issue and other suggestions.

I myself am disgusted by homophobia and any insinuation that "as a gay couple," the two Rachels may not realize how "graphic" their parents' imagination is. I believe Lindsay when she says that her family is supportive. These girls may have done something that is very hurtful to their families and friends, but it is not our place to judge their motives or their actions. We ALL need to focus on encouraging them to come home!

Eileen - We did not want to bother the parents during this stressful time but wanted to try to get these helpful websites to them. Do you think you or Miki could forward this information to the family if possible.

Thanks Michelle

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From: Jeffrey Hughes [mailto:jhughes@identakey.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:08 PM

We have learned about your missing daughter through our family in Bethesda MD. We have forwarded on your email with you child's picture to our Network for IdentaKey Good Citizen who requested to be alerted in these situation in the DC area.

I realize you are working with the police but wanted to share with you some resources that are very helpful:

· Lost Child Alert Technical Resource, http://www.locaterposters.org/index.html

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· The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children's® (NCMEC), http://www.missingkids.com/

· Lost Children's Network, http://www.lostchildren.org/agencies.htm
What to do if your child is missing. List of State Missing Children Agencies and Regional FBI Offices.

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My thoughts and prayers are with you. I have written this poem in the hopes that you remain positive and have dedicated it to both Rachels.

“Rachel’s Journey”

If there is a deep valley
There is also a rising hill
Wherever Rachel may travel
Her deep soul she will fill

Where there are winters
There are also springs
For Rachel’s journey
Is to spread her wings

Where there is sadness
There is also joy
For love is love
Whether girl or boy

From her hidden valley
Rachel will climb her hill
And home she will venture
Of her own free will!

Nothing hurts as much as not being able to protect your child. Whether it's an insignificant scratch or a major disappointment. I am sure it is hard being a kid with today's pressure, and all parents want to be able to shield their kids from unnecessary pain. But, we can't do this if we don't know what's bothering them. My fifteen year old grandson started to run away from home for no reason that I saw. We never argued or had any disagreements. He had everything that a child could want. But I found out later he was unhappy even tho he never told me or showed it. I just thought everything was okay. He was so unhappy but didn't want to talk about it, so he left. It hurts me because he was in pain and I didn't know.
So these two young ladies may had felt that they were alone in whatever
they are going thru. Parents need to know, so please don't be so hard on them.

To the girls:
Trust your parents and talk to them, let them help you. They love you, believe me.
Nothing is more important than you two.

That the call from the cell phone came from Charles Town, WV area, and I *think* they said it was Rachel Crites calling her parents. That was LAST Friday, the day after they went "missing". No more details were given about the phone call.

Why are we being asked to look for their where abouts locally if they are out of town?

Probably in California by now.

You are doing a wonderful job keeping the media involved with situation. Going national on Fox News last night is the kind of thing that will bring the girls home. You showed a lot of concern, love and sensitivity. Bless you. Please know that your efforts will be rewarded and the girls will never forget them.

You have a position in the community unlike the rest of us who are just frustrated. Is there anyway you could approach especially Rachel Smith's family and encourage them to let the rest of us who care and have rescources do what we can to help.

I am stunned by the arrogance of those who -- without any law enforcement or missing persons credentials to speak of -- suggest that the Smiths are somehow negligent in the manner in which they have responded to this very unfortunate situation.

The Smiths obviously are working with the Montgomery County Police and they -- not we -- have the expertise to advise the family on the pros and cons of different strategies. The rest of us cannot pretend to understand the Smiths' perspective, and we have no business second-guessing their decisions. Instead, we should focus our energy on keeping our eyes and ears open.

The Monday Morning Quarterbacking has got to stop.

and have no idea what expertise I have or other concerned members of the community. Even with no expertise, money is available and even a child can hang a poster. And with the end of the "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" so shall the flow of ideas, concern and memory of these girls. Good Thinking!

In Elementary school when I was in 3rd or 4th grade I met Rachel at SACC. She is a sweet person, very outgoing. I haven't heard about her until now. This is not how I wanted to hear about her again. Rachel, Please Come Home!!!

Love,
Carolina

I remember Rachel from Stratford Landing SACC. She was very athletic, outgoing, and Kind. I was wondering about her the other day and to suddenly hear this breaks my heart. I will pray for Rachel and Rachel to come home.

Love,
Carolina

It's Uncle Bruce in Florida. If you can read this, the entire family is worried and concerned for your safey, and your friends' as well. Please come home or at least CALL HOME or a friend to let your parents and all concerned that you are alright. We all love you very much and want you to be home with your family. Whatever you are feeling, or going through please know that I know your parents and you can work it out over time. PLEASE, COME HOME! SAFELY!
I love you ..
Uncle Bruce

I have been following this story and comment thread for the past week and have been moved by the outpouring of love and support for the two Rachels.

I just pray that everyone who has posted here or read the story who has children in their lives has gone home to express to these children and youth just how much they mean to each of you.

As a former youthworker, I know how frustrating even the *best* adolescents can be... but, if we take the time to think back, it is probably one of the most crucial times for us to hear that we are special, smart, funny, kind, loved, admired.. whatever.

So I implore each and every one of you to go hug the child/youth in your lives and let them know what a wonderful gift they are to you.

I heard about the two Rachels and I got curious and began to think to myself, 'if they are driving a car... they're gunna run outta gas.' I jumped on the computer and googled "All gas stations in Charles Town WV" and a whole list came up. I decided to just work my way down the list and just call each one, one by one. So I called the first station and asked "I was woundering if you knew of anyone who worked on January 19th? sometime in the afternoon perhaps?" a woman answered the phone and she said she had no idea and to call back later, so I hung up and tried the second on my list, 7-11. I dialed the number and a woman answered, i asked the same question to her and she said "Hold on let me get the manager." then i heard a man answer and i ask him..."I was woundering if you saw a Dark Blue Subaru Outback station wagon on the evening of January 19th?" he immediately knew what I was talking about and said..."Yes they came to this station, I talked to the one driving, she hit the curb and I told her to be careful with her nice car, she laughed but that's all." So then I began to find my inner detective and asked him another question..."What condition were they in? were they alright?" "Oh yes they were fine" he replied. Then I asked him one last question..."Did you happen to see what direction they left?" and he said "Yes they took a left going North towards Route 9 in Martainsburg WV." I told him thank you and hung up. I immediately called the police to report the information I recieved in hopes it may help the search. I got a retired cop on the phone and he wrote down everything I told him and said that he would tell the search crew in Martainsburg about it and to keep a look out. I don't know why I was so into it but I was determined to find out where these girls were going, I was so into it that i could stop searching online for places they may have gone, i wrote down possible states in the direction of where they were last seen (north). i looked to see if there were family members on here to see if they lived in the states i wrote down. none. I really hope they are found soon, just keep calling gas stations, car dealerships, grocery stores, walmarts, anywhere that would sell food and gas, even motels just to see if these girls had slept in a lodge somewhere. They cant drive all night so they have to stop somewhere, stopping on the side of the rode is illegal so they cant sleep on the side of the road in the car. Rest areas should be a place where you should enforce awarness. I hope this helps your hopes. In my heart I pray that they return home and make smart choices.

From a friend from afar,
Kelly

Question is, how did they pay for the gas (if they got any). They're probably not using any electronic transactions, as I'm sure those are tracked.

I don't know either family, but live one street over from Smiths'. Helping to spread handouts tomorrow.

M.E.

Hello all,
I live in VA and i know Smith, we met last year at a bbyo convention.I just wanted to put this out there that kelly from above is very dedicated and i give her alot of brownie points for calling all the gas stations in WV. but hey,if thats a way to find the girls then way to go!I got the chills from reading the comment above. Every day i go out i look for that car that they are driving and everynight i think about them! I am very worried for them and hope they return soon and i hope that they are in the WV area still...PLEASE CALL HOME IF YOU ARE READING THIS!!!

I Miss you rachel!!

All girls just want to have fun and be the center of attention. These drama queens are especially cold and selfish for not calling home. It was premeditated they know what they did is wrong, so they will reap what that have sown.

My son pulled this crap last fall when he was 17. He was missing from home for a week. For some reason 'running away' at this age does not seem too uncommon, and almost like some kind of destructive rite of passage anymore for kids in this age group. I know several other families who have gone through the same thing. Good families who have provided everything for their kids. Is it to prove their independence? I dont think they appreciate how sick with worry everyone is. Trust me, the glamor soon wears off. It's not fun anymore to be tired, dirty, and hungry. I know exactly how you feel, Moms and Dads. I've been there. Lots of us have. They will turn up.

"Crites' mother, Kathryn Cornelius, flew in from Italy, where she now lives..."

atleast she had the time for her child... (sarcasm)

Mrs. Cornelius is a loving mother, and her children visit all the time. Please don't make assumptions. You really don't know anything about the situation, or Rachel and her mother's relationship. I find it shocking that you would dare to comment on a child's life with her parents. especially when she has not two, but four loving parents (counting step parents.)

Advertisements in newspapers suggest girls can earn over $1,000.00 weekly.

Rachel my heart is heavy with worry about you and your friend Rachel. I just pray that you are safe and will be home soon. I remember all the great times we had togehter -- like helping to plan your Bat Mitzvah and hanging out as families; you were like family to me. You are such an amazing young lady and you have the whole world of opportunities in front of you. I pray every day for your safe return.
Love always, Susan A.

Kelly,
One problem with the information the clerk at 7-11 told you. She would not have been able to see which direction they were heading after turning left out of the parking lot. The road (turns into 340) can go to Leesburg, Berrysville, VA, Winchester, Harpers Ferry, WV or Frederick MD or Route 9 to Martinsburg. From the clerk's vantage point she would have not been able to see where they headed. Also, another problem with the clerk's story - there are NO curbs for the driver to run up against. The only "curb" is directly in front of the store (the sidewalk) and not near the gas pumps. I lived in that area for 10 years (until 2005) and know each of the gas stations and 7-11s.

Please know that my prayers are with you. I too have posted numerous Alerts and emails after emails with links to friends and co workers from Maryland to Colorado to join in the search. I have not seen Rachel in many years, but my heart is heavy with concern and full of prayes for her and for all of you.. I know that trials come before all of us in life but there are times that we must look past ourselves and join together as one on a mission- pulling together as best we can for the sake of our loved ones especially our children. I am Bruce's ex wife - but none the less, I am deeply concerned for the safe return of Rachel and her friend and I wanted to share my concern and to let you know that I will continue to help until Rachel is home again safe. Please know that I care and my prayers are with each and every one of you.

Lois Kacin

Sooner of later someone might abduct them, they might be easily led. These girls look like they could easily be a target. And they don't have any money. But for now it seems like they are run aways, I think they'll fine them fast.

...be charged with kidnapping?

After you hug them, Ask them if they have any idea how many people they have hurt.

well atleast I tried... i bet that cop thinks i was a fake... great

I live near Charles Town. There is at least one 7-11 on Rt 9 at the VA Center that matches your discription. You did the right think calling the info into the athorities and letting them follow up. If anyone in WV has information and wants to call local please call the WV Jefferson Co. headquarters 304-725-8484 or call 1-800-THE-LOST.

We read these blogs continuously. There's too little information, too little we can do, and believe me, we truly appreciate your efforts and ideas. Any information that comes to us is appreciated - even the sightings which don't pan out still give us momentary hope. Kelly, the whole family read and re-read your entry, we google-earthed and mapblasted the sites, we talked again to the police. Please, don't stop thinking and trying to come up with ideas. We never know which person or odd idea will be the one that leads us to our girls. Thank you for your efforts and for caring.

Rachel Crites' family

PS St Martins Catholic Church will have a mass Sunday January 28th at 11:30 for Rachel Crites

I really don't think that the girls were taken. I knew Rachel Smith, we were close and I have tried calling, just like many other people and although most of the time the 'sprint mailox is full' but the other day it wasn't and rachel smith had changed her voicemail. That leads me to believe they are ok... still thinking of them and their safe return as always<3

These two are far from the only missing girls in Maryland recently. I wish the media would also alert the public to these disappearances:

Starquasia Butler, 14, missing from Baltimore
Jackie Robinson, 14, missing from Baltimore
Yesmil Santana, 15, missing from Gaithersburg
Taylor Stubbs, 13, missing from Silver Spring
Mercedes Castillo, 17, missing from Silver Spring
Briauna Rice, 15, missing from Rockville
Sheron Robinson, 14, missing from Capitol Heights

Sincerely,
Maryland Missing Persons Network
To view Maryland's missing persons: www.marylandmissing.com

You are absolutely right, Kat J.
Only now can I really understand what torture it is to miss someone you love.
They are all so young...

The reason they are not posted like the Rachels are is because they are not part of "white america". Believe me I'm not insensitive to the fact that the Rachels are missing, but......one word comes to my mind.....CAUCASIAN.......I do hope the Rachels are found safe and sound, as I do EVERY other missing child.

I think it's time to use a good psychic. You never know!

There are some trackers for cellphones even when they are turned off...Maybe that might be helpful....

sometimes i find myself thinking, have they found them? where are they? I am more than certain you feel the same. I look on sites everyday to see if there is any news about them, if the police have heard from a citizen who spot the girls or what not. I haven't really found anything to keep me up to date besides this web site. I am praying for you Miss Crites, your daughter and her friend are in my thoughts and prayers. I only wish I could do more. I live in Stafford so I am a bit of a distance away, but definately not by heart. I will continue to look on this site for updates if the girls have called or what not. Please don't hesitate to ask for my email if you would like to talk further and perhaps I can get posters around down here in North VA. Keep us updated and keep calling those places I've listed. Eventually they will need to stock up on food and gas (if they have cash). Maybe Rachel Smith has a friend that they maybe staying at? Perhaps ask her parents (which im sure was the first thing you did) whether or not they know of friends in the surrounding states. They have to have been seen by someone. They must be home sick and I hope they call you soon.

Your friend,
Kelly

of hurtful posts? Keep it to yourselves. This is not the time to judge or to purposefully hurt these families with words. This is a time to pray and to rally and to hope.

During the day and especially at night, I think about these girls and their loved ones. I can't allow myself to imagine any of my children doing this because just a glimpse of what the Smiths and Crites must feel, is way too painful.

Pointing fingers is easy, judging is easy but it really isn't right.

My prayers go to these girls and these families.

Teresa

Something else just occurred to me. Rachel Crites's father said he didn't know why the girls would head toward Charles Town, West Virginia, because the family didn't have any relatives or friends in that area. Is is possible that one or both Rachels have met someone that lives outside of Maryland, through the Internet? Look through their email, Myspace, Facebook, and instant message accounts. They haven't been seen or heard from since January 19th, which could indicate that they are holing up at somebody's house.

My thoughts and prayers are with both families.

Elizabeth

Remember, if it has been snowing in West Virginia. It may be harder to recognize the vehicle, so it cannot be guaranteed that they are "holing up at somebody's house". Anyways, yes, check facebook.com.

Another good point. I live in the midwest, so I don't know what the whether is like as of right now in Maryland and WV. Though I do remember something a friend from WV told me; that snow is fairly uncommon in that area so when it DOES snow people do things like stocking up on groceries and household supplies and lay low. (again, that's from a friend in WV so this is not meant as an attack on anyone and I apologize if my words seem rude.) Point is that if it does snow or has been snowing, as Alexis pointed out, there would be far fewer people on the roads to recognize the vehicle and either of the Rachels. Of course there are many other ideas that have come to me and I know nothing about police and detective work. I hope that both girls are safe and sound.

The story says there are several leads in the case but no referance as to what areas the leads are coming from. The call from WVA was about all that was put out. The public can help if they know where to be looking.

I know Rachel Crites, and I know that a few years ago she was very much under her parents' control.
What is happening right now is not helping, they are both probably reading this, and looking through their journals, and myspaces etc. is only going to get them further and further away.
I assume (from the quote posted from Rachel's journal) that they would go to Charlstown BECAUSE they don't know anyone there.
They want to be alone. And the only way to hear from them is to let them know that they are loved and supported, and just wait.
Nothing will make them come back except their own desire to come back. A search won't help, because only they hold their solution.
People who are in love think with their hearts, and only about themselves and the one they love.
Just let them know your love, and they will return when the time is good for them.
Anything else that is done will just get them further from what you call their home.

I trust they return safely, that they are having a pleasurable time, and understand soon and quick how loved they are. Rachel is a very intelligent girl. I have my faith in her.

I think that they may be back in town from West Virginia. Chelsea mentioned earlier that Smith's voicemail recording was changed, so we can assume she heard or knows she has tons of messages. They could be staying at a friends house local in Montgomery County, with the car parked in the garage. Who are Crites and Smith's mutual friends?

Praying for you everyday.

They are obviously conflicted about some part of their family life and their homosexuality. Stop searching. Leave them alone and eventually they will return. The more attention and pressure you apply, the more likely you will see an unfortunate outcome.

Changing a letter or two in a word makes all the difference.

The Juan and Only

Right now the point is not why the girls left, or their sexuality, or anything else. The point of concern is to make sure they are safe.

I live in Virginia, 10 miles from Charles Town WV, and work with many WV residents. I am forwarding the "missing" poster to all my coworkers, printing copies to display at work, and have copied the license number and put it in my pocket.

My thoughts are with the girls and their families and friends, with wishes for their safety and reconciliation with their loved ones.

Obviously I don't know the details of what happened and only the two girls do. That being said, this most certainly "appears" to be a "let's get the heck out of here" more so than an abduction.

If my opinion is true, how much of the taxpayer's $$$ do these two have to pay back for us wasting time, money and resources on their selfish, immature decision? Are there laws that make this type of activity a crime?

I'm pretty sure the 18 year old can get charged with kidnapping if they cross state borders, but is there anything more than that? If this is in fact a runaway case, is ridiculous that there is so much time and $$ being put into this and they need to pay every penny back.

u must be eating crow big time now

Your pen is quicker than your empathy.

Apparently these children do not want to be found...so leave it alone. Does anyone realize that since the 1st of January there have been 8 other missing childern as young as 14?

There are many people who love these two girls very much and are extremely concerned about the matter. Have some sympathy man, lighten up. There are two girls out in this world who have not been found; with worried family waiting anticipating their return. Granted, there are others as well missing and I'm sure every police department is doing the best they can. Have some respect and grow up.

My roommate is her cousin.

We live next to Charles Town, WV (Ranson) and have been keeping up with the story since the beginning. I pray for both Rachels that you are safe and together. No matter how much pressure you are under or are feeling, I hope you will eventually make the right choice and go home to your families and work out your issues.

I know it is difficult being in a relationship that is considered "different". I have been there, but running away is not the answer. Whatever issues you may have with family or otherwise, it can all be worked out over time.

My thoughts and prayers are with you. At least call your parents to let them know you are safe and OK. Imagine how this is killing them inside? No matter what feelings you have towards them whether it be good or bad, let them know you are OK. Do the right thing and make a safe return home and work through your issues responsibly.

Running is not the answer. I've tried that, it doesn't work. Your problems will always face you unless you deal with them.

We pray for your safe return.
Barb & Mel

I just found out about this story. As the father of two girls I can't imagine what the families are going through. Even though I am nowhere near WV, I'll still keep my eyes out - just in case.

I still find myself checking out cars I pass with DC, VA, and MD plates anyway just to see if its someone I know from my old hangouts. My thoughts and prayers are with these girls and their families.

Try Shannondale and any communities off of Mission Road. Lots of unoccupied housing up there this time of year. It's very close to Charlestown. Some people have been known to "break in" and live there all winter.

While other missing people are forgotten or not even reported. These girls ran away and are throwing a temper tantrum because they did not get what they want. Someone call MTV b/c I thnk once they return to their posh Potomac neighborhood the Sweet 16 crew can record their over the top party.

If these girls did not have powerful and rich parents we would not know or care about them. Kudo's to the parents for getting this type of coverage but watch out, b/c Geraldo may be right around the cornor asking the same question I am. Who knows what may turn up when that happens. Its fishy to me the amount of coverage this is getting. Someone needs to investigate the coverage of this and how it happened.

By the way, I am white, upper middle class, and here is a list of other missing kids that WTOP and Big Media forgot about:

Jackie Robinson, 14, missing from Baltimore
Yesmil Santana, 15, missing from Gaithersburg
Taylor Stubbs, 13, missing from Silver Spring
Mercedes Castillo, 17, missing from Silver Spring
Briauna Rice, 15, missing from Rockville
Sheron Robinson, 14, missing from Capitol Heights

I am ringing the "this smells" bell. I am not the only one. Girls: you will regret this.

Say what you want, say I am in the wrong, but deep inside, everyone of you that reads this agrees with me.

WTOP: Make this story go away before it generates the wrong kind of attention. I like your site and station.

Being from NJ, I have no idea what's a posh Potomic neighborhood, and what isn't. Not that that matters. What does matter is that there are four parents out there who have no idea where their children are. And what makes it disturbing and urgent is the note that Rachel Crites left in her journal.

I am the father of two boys. If either of my kids disappeared, whether on their own or not, I would use every means possible to at least find out they're okay.

I have no idea who these girls are. I only learned about it because my rabbi sent an email about it. Since then I have been gathering as much information as I can on them and feel that I know the Rachels and I want to read that they at least called home.

Not that it really matters but NORTH Potomac (where the Smith's live) is across the street from Rockville (same school districts as Rockville) and the Crites live in Gaithersburg. Two of the girls you say are missing come from these areas too. They don't live in Potomac.

Missing kids are missing kids, rich poor or anywhere in between.

Teresa

Missing kids are missing kids, rich poor or anywhere in between.

So why is the media spending so much time on these 2....here is a list of missing endangered runaways...have you heard abou these kids?

Jackie Robinson, 14, missing from Baltimore
Yesmil Santana, 15, missing from Gaithersburg
Taylor Stubbs, 13, missing from Silver Spring
Mercedes Castillo, 17, missing from Silver Spring
Briauna Rice, 15, missing from Rockville
Sheron Robinson, 14, missing from Capitol Heights

how dare you! do you have any idea what is happening to these 2 families right now!? have you ever had a child run away, or worse not ever come home? my family and i have. no i agree that one child is not more important than the next, but you have to understand this is probably something the parents wanted, not because it was good for ratings, but because they were concerned about their daughters and just wanted them to come home safe and sound. if you are so worried about why the local media is "spending so much time on these 2" write the new station, do not post your garbage where the friends, families or god forbid the girls could have read this filth. god have mercy on your soul, and i hope you never lose one of yours, if you should ever be so blessed.
alexis b.

... I see your point and how it would seem that way but, according to the website for the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, over 2,000 children are reported as missing each day. While each child is equally important, police and media must focus on the missing child cases they deem most critical.

A child who runs away 17 times in a month (and yes, that does happen) is not less important than a child who leaves and is planning to kill herself... but the suicidal child is in more imminent danger. No one is saying any child is more important than another child... but some cases are simply more critical than others.

Also, I would like to thank you for mentioning those other missing children in your post, and also point out that just because the media does not mention these missing kids, that doesn't mean every single person on this site, having access to the Internet, cannot go on missing children websites and look at their posters.

Media is a business, and they are only going to show what they feel will get headlines. No one is stopping anyone else from searching for other missing kids out there.

good post!

I don't think this story needs to go away, but maybe WTOP could also publicize other missing children from the area.

I'm sure most of us reading this care about what happens to any child missing, regardless of race, religion or economic status. It would be great if all kids in trouble could get this same attention.

My heart goes out to all these children and all of their families - it's impossible to imagine what you're going through.

There is something that is not being said....I went to high school with both girls, and was in the same class as the older...She seemed to be a bothered kid and showed up to Wootton I'm told during fall just to visit, but would stay all day...this is not normal and I believe that someone has to know something with regards to motives or anything else....I'm interested to know what happens because I know the girls....I hate to be a downer but.....at some point they had to get gas unless they are walking everywhere..and if that is the case, then the car would most likely be found if in fact it's on land.....Knowing Smith's older sister, I feel terrible for her and her family and hope they will get her back....But I feel as if facts and statements arent being brought out that would help the case. If people knew more, then they could know what too look for......Again, I hope we find them, and of course the other missing children and teens who are wanted as well....Good luck to everyone..

I agree. Wootton High School has some questions to ask it's staff. Why was someone (Rachel Crites) who had already graduated attending classes? Did not one of Rachel Smiths teachers think this was odd?

Girls we all hope you come home soon.

I really dont see how this has anything to do with race, religion or social class... anyways, I believe everyone would like to see children that are missing get found. It would be amazing if they all could have the same publicity as these two girls. Blessings for all families with missing loved ones.

Love Kelly

Kelly,

I was actually responding to Tim M. who asked WTOP to "make this story go away."

I was responding to Tim M. on his post "Why do these girls get so much attention" as well and Amelia C. on her post "White America". I totaly agree with you though J G.

Everyone have a nice day,
Love Kelly

Kelly:
This has EVERYTHING to do with race and class. How can you say it doesn't??? I'm not trying to make it seem like the situation is not important, because they do need to be found safe and sound, but other kids don't get quite as much attention. The amount of attention is because their race and class.

Ok..I'm really not going to get into an argument haha maybe im wrong i dont know, but ... well I just hope Rachel and Rachel are found soon along with the other missing children, unfortunately some may not be which I cannot even imagine how loved ones must feel.... please understand that I don't mean to cause any fuss Amelia, I just want to hear (like everyone else) that they are found safe at home.

Love Kelly

Rachel, it is Aunt Barb in Washington State. I want to tell you that I have been where you are, honey. Where it is dark and scary in your mind, and no one seems to get it. I wanted to yell to the doctors and experts: "I'm HURTING and you are not helping. You haven't been there...you've only read about it!" What helped me the most was talking with women who had been where I was. I would love to be that for you. All you need to do is call and I will be there. There is so much light and love on the other side of what you are feeling, I promise you.
All my love, Aunt Barb (253) 350-6552

I think that they may be back in town from West Virginia. Chelsea mentioned earlier that Smith's voicemail recording was changed, so we can assume she heard or knows she has tons of messages. They could be staying at a friends house local in Montgomery County, with the car parked in the garage. Or possibly staying with a friend, myspace/facebook online friend in WV, Maryland, California, who knows. What someone said earlier about this is spending a lot of money, well the main point is so this can SPREAD to everyone, because the more people who know the more information we can find. I think its more important to spread the information than the police out looking for them nearby. Who are Crites and Smith's mutual friends?

Praying for you everyday.

I have been following this story almost from day one. There seems to be such a huge void to this case. Why aren't the parents more visible? Have they hired a private investigator, a psychic? There seems to be more to this story. Was there some type of huge argument and the parents are so furious with one of the girls that they can't get past their anger.

If someone noticed that the cellphone message had been changed then possibly the phone has been on. Doesn't a cell send a signal just by being on?

There have been a few entries on this blog that say there are lead but no further details are given.

If the sister can state that they didn't run away because of the sexuality issue then she surely must know something. If not how could she possibly make a statement like that.

It just seems that so many people want to help (including myself) but there is so little information. DC101 has a person on from America's most wanted which ran the story last Saturday. They only got 3 calls with little information. Somebody has to know something. These girls didn't just disappear with their car.

How are they paying for things: food, gas. Have they been staging this for a while? I hope they haven't resorted to drugs or sex as a means of making money.

If the girls planned this, I have to say that they are definitely sending a very big message to their families (the ultimate FU). Please, please put out more information. People all over truly want to help.

...but there is a reason the media and the public only knows what they know. If all the information was given out it could jeapordize the investigation. The Smiths and the Crites' are doing what they believe is best and safest for the girls. I am shocked at so many of you people, who are criticizing the families. Shame on You! Until you are in the situation yourselves you cannot possibly know what it feels like to lose a child or a sibling. The families are working with the police, who are more qualified than almost all of you who are trying to point fingers or give orders. You ought to be embarrased by yourselves. There is a purpose for everything. ADDITIONALLY- what does it matter WHY these girls ran away? Whether or not there was a fight or a specific reason, the point is that they are gone and need to be found. Futhermore, this case HAS NOTHING to do with Race or Socioeconomic status. Anyone with a missing child can get media coverage if they try to get some coverage and present a story. These girls are no more urgent than other missing children, but they have more press coverage because their families have been working with the press. But because you all know SO much, you already knew that, I'm sure.

Also, "The Sister" has a name... It's Lindsay.

Pray.

It took me the longest time to overcome my sense of alarm from murder case of Michelle Gardner-Quinn. Now the horror in the media begins all over again with the apparent abduction and murder of these two girls.

Alarm incited by violence we read about in the news each day is enough to justify prescriptions of antidepressants, anti-anxiety medicine, and sleeping pills for the entire country.

In response to complaints that these two girls received undue attention in the media compared to other victims; it might be because both girls had excellent portrait photos that made their faces easy for the public to identify, whereas other missing persons do not. Even America's Most Wanted avoids cases, where there exists no photograph or drawing to identify either the victim or perpetrator. This is true regardless of a case's merit.

Let your stupid selfish agendas go; stuff your personal opinions. These "kids" were not abducted. Period. Sorry if you can't handle the truth. You'll see that this "love story" will turn out OK as far as the safety of the kids is concerned. For you socio-economic theorists, well, get a life bounded in reality. These are just two misdirected and misinformed kids trying to live a life in a fictional nirvana.

Bet you wish you could do that now.

Open mouth, insert foot and go back into the hole you crawled out from.

I'm very sorry to the the family and friends.

The painful reality of today hasn't yet sunk in with those of us just wanting and hoping to bring these girls home. I can't imagine what the families are feeling now. I pray that they will find comfort in the years of amazing memories they have....we can't understand why such things happen to such great people as the Crites or the Smiths........there but for the grace of God, go I.

I hope you find peace and love.

Ms Crites' car has been found in Loudoun, and there are two female bodies inside. Whether they are the girls in question or not, I believe it's time for all comments except those which are kindhearted and supportive to end. Our mothers taught us to say 'nothing at all' if we can't say 'something nice.' For the sake of that which is loving and caring, bridle your harsh and hurtful words. Shame on us. I believe caring comments are in order henceforth.

I recieved an e-mail from Troy Crites today. He wanted to thank everyone for their effort in the search for the girls. He stated his daugter is dead. The girls apparently took their own lives and died from carbon monoxcide poisioning. At this time, please respect the privacy of the families. Please do not judge. Please reach out to the children in your lives and talk to them. Hug them. Let them know they are loved.

Pray for the Crites and Smith families.

It may have been accidental and not a suicide. If they were running the car to stay warm and CO came in through damage to the exhaust system, the car could fill with CO while they were asleep. It can rise to fatal levels in just three hours of running time. This is not as uncommon as you might think. There was a fatality case of a night watchman a few years back under similar circumstances. See http://www.msha.gov/FATALS/1995/FTL95C10.HTM.

Adele Abrams, Esq.

Bill J.,

Congrats.....you've shown that you know nothing more than that you have an opinion.....don't we all???? Your opinion did nothing except to express to everyone that you "thought' you were right. Are you happy with your "15 minutes of fame" on-line??? Get a life!!!

Unfortunately, you're wrong......these girls may or may not have been abducted.....we may never know....but to imply that "two misdirected and misinformed kids" will "will turn out OK" just proves that you have just as much a stupid selfish agenda than those you that you accuse. What a shame that this story ended the way it did.

I can only offer my condolences to the families and really wish you knew what the heck you are talking about when you accuse other posters of not being able to "handle the truth".....you, of all people, have proven that you don't even know what that is!!!

To the families.....my sincere condolences!!!!

Maybe you should check the news before you go spouting words that you cant even define. All those big words really meant nothing and all are irrelevant being that these girls were found dead in their vehicle this afternoon. So much for your "socio-economical" theory...or whatever you were mumbling. Way to go moron.

On a much more relevant note, I will say that we are praying for the families of these children and hope that they will receive the respect and privacy deserved to cope with their unfortunate loss.

What are the circumstances surrounding the two "unidentified" girls in the car? C'mon WTOP, let's get on top of this story. We are still waiting on a follow-up to the missing man at Great Falls.

But for them not to be able to make an ID on them quickly makes it appear
they must be in pretty bad shape (unidentifiable?) :(

I hope that isn't the case.

My heart broke this morning when I saw this story as I have been coming on here every day, sometime multiply times, to see if they were found and safe.

I do not know what made this girls run. All I know is my life and as a lesbian who lost a find at 13 from suicide because he couldn't handle the other kids calling him "faggot" any longer, someone who as a teen thought of killing myself many times, and living with a partner (of 10 years) who dealt with depression and did in fact attempt suicide a few times as a teen... I know how hard life can get when you feel unaccepted by others.

I AM NOT SAYING the family was unaccepting... BUT these girls might have thought you were/would be OR that you would still rather they were not gay. I still feel that way at times and my family is wonderful in accepting me and my partner.

What I really want to say is that the feeling of not being accepted by family, friends, society, or whoever... is a hard one to take. It's harder then anyone can imagine, even when you are the type of person that usually doesn't care how others think... caring about what others think and being accepted are completing different! It's very hard to not feel accepted and not have control over who you are. I'm very happy with my partner and have lasted longer then most heterosexual relationships I know, but we still have to act like friends in public and live in a society that doesn't accept or understand us.

Many teens/adults kill themselves over this and it's honestly time to stop it. The girls for whatever reason in their minds MIGHT have decided that people would not accept them and not understand there is help for them.

I live in Jefferson County, WV... about 20 minutes from the Loudoun Border right off of Rt 9 and so upset to know they were in my area. I planned to drive around remote areas today, hoping they were hiding out in house that are abandoned for the winter. I wanted to talk to them, ask why, and let them know that even if family didn't accept it at first, they would come around. (IF THAT'S WHY THIS HAPPENED)

I can only speculate why they run and I can only talk about what I know. I feel for the family and I am so sorry for what you are going through. I only wished they talked to you more and talked to others more.

I hope that other’s reading this will understand what not accepting people for their differences can cause great pain and tragic endings. No matter what your beliefs are, you are not the one to judge anyone, only God. Make this world a better place and leave hate behind. As a country we are so far behind so many others in the Gay Rights area – even South Africa & Mexico City gives more rights to gays then this country. I just want a world/country that’s accepting and not causing so many wonderful people to leave this world before their time.

Please don’t start a debate with me. There are plenty of studies out there regarding gay teens and suicide. PLEASE understand as a society we could fix this problem.

But that can only go so far. Teenagers especially feel the "need to fit in." I remember being distraught that I "wasn't cool," because I didn't wear the "right" clothes and I was chubby. Believe me, even so-called "friends" made my life miserable over that crap.
How much worse must it be if questions of sexuality are thrown in?

I would like to start by wishing my sincere condolences to the families of both of these children. No parent should have to ever suffer such anguish!

Following that, I would like to say to Melody V. - how dare you make this about what the rest of us did or didn't do! And how dare you make this about your personal suffering and what you perceive to be the problems in this case! While you have my sympathies if you suffered as a child, this case is not about you and your agenda.

I was not making that about me and maybe you should get off your soapbox for a second. What I was trying to say was that people need to stop suffering because if who they are & society not accepting it!
I ONLY mentioned my life before SOMEONE else on here say to me how would I know or something like that! How dare you be so selfish to make such a RUDE comment on here after these girls are now dead.
YOU WERE SO FAR OFF ABOUT THIS!!! I wanted to make sure someone who read would know I was not just making stuff up, but know what it's like and people like you are the worse, if you can't understand what I was trying to say.
Yes, it's hard for everyone to be a teen, to figure out what/who you are in this world. But then to throw on top of that to have society not accepting makes it worse. Believe I know and that all I was trying to say.

LIKE I STATED - LEAVE THE HATE BEHIND! I was hoping maybe someone would read & understand that this could be prevented and maybe people out there would like to help the issue instead of making it worse.

BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION... OTHERWISE YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
ALSO, like I said, I don't want a debate on this, this is my views and how I see it. Find somewhere else to debate.

In the Post it mentioned that they were seen recently as last week.

The vehicle may in fact had broken down and the girls were tying to keep warm !!

tome

They were driving up a mountain past the end of the road, to a point where the incline was too much. The car couldn't go any further on the dirt/grass.

I'm suprised they had any gas left to die of CO poisoning. Must have refueled some where.

My heart goes out to the families and of course the girls friends. I live in Gaithersburg and live very close to the Crites home. My heart is saddened by the news of these girls being found deceased. Lets all take our opinions and put them on the back burner for now and pray for these families.

Remember to take time and give someone close to you a hug!!!

To the Crites and the Smiths... May God give you the comfort you need at this time.


~~~~ K. S
Gaithersburg, MD

Todays teens will control my future.

We have to help them survive the turmoil and trauma of todays teen world.

I feel for the parents of these two girls as well as all run-aways.

My heart breaks for all of you.

can not read anymore of this. i bow to the parents and weep as u do, so sorry and know that will not help but that is all that i can do now. love you and yours, michael

why do these girls get so much attection, cause they are a part of us, our lifes. if you want to turn your back on them then you are not a part of socity
and u are on your own.

but think that my heart felt sorrow out to you is enough

My heart goes out to both families more than words could ever express. The community came together in such a beautiful way....it does always sadden me that is seems to take something drastic to do it, but it also shows that when people truly need it, people "really" do "care"!!! I agree with the person who wrote if you can't say something caring and compassionate than this isn't the time for you..........Now, more than ever, the family needs support and strength to get through such a difficult time.

Julie B.
Bethesda

I don't know about the speculation that they were lesbians. If they wanted to be together all they needed to do was wait one more year until the other girl was 17, then they could moved out and lived in an apartment together. Regardless, they possibly died from fumes and had no intention of doing themselves in. In any case they were absolutely being selfish, and they were old enough to act better than that. Some kids do the wrong thing and nothing can be done about it, the parents probably were perfectly average. Sometimes kids in american don't know how good they have it and they don't appreciate it as much as they should and work themselves into strange mindsets over small things.

My sympathy to both families for their loss. Kids today have so much pressure on them than ever before. My life was very easy compared to what they go through today. I never had to worry about guns in schools, assaults or robberies. Doors to the homes and cars were left unlocked and you knew everyone on the block.
I hope things get better in this country but I just dont see that happening.

My heart really goes out to the families of these two young women. I have been following this story, and I'm grieved by the way it has appeared to have turned out. My sleep was disturbed one night last week when I woke up in the middle of the night, and wondered how I would deal with them if I had encountered them, and how I would help restore them to their families.

They apparently thought all the hope they had in this world was with each other, but it obviously was not enough. What lessons can we pass on to our own children to save them from such despair?

hello,
I am from BBYO and today and last night for everyone who knew smith. We all knew rachel and every single person that i know who knows rachel smith misses her. We are all a wreck today and I a very sad since she was found in my own county. I heard about this last night on the 11 pm knews and i was in shock. We all love you from NRE BBYO

Rest in peace Smith (and crites)

Rachel
Loudoun County ,VA

prayer never fails love never fails. i am praying for you. jesus is lord

Oh how I wish we all as parents could understand the teenage mind better. It is so difficult as a parent to even hear about the two Rachels, but to be part of their families, I can't even imagine. My heart, my prayers, my thoughts go out to both families, may both girls rest in peace and may both families know that the committee at large is praying for them.

I don't want this comment to make it sound like I am insensitive but I am wondering why the media is so reluctant to report that these girls were obviously lesbian lovers and it had a big part in their suicide pact? I think that we are going to find that at least one of the parents had discovered the truth and tried to keep one away from the other and thus the decision to leave and do what they did. I am sure that eventually one of the area papers will do a piece on what actually happened.

The world is a cold, cruel place. I can not only imagine the horror the family is going through with this. When people disappear and are found murdered or in suicide situations, the pain doesn't stop when burials happen.

What these families go on to is endless years of despair. What could I have done to prevent this? Blaming themselves, and eventually their only focus in the world is to reconcile the situation in their mind. This can go on for decades.

Many families in this state who have had missing loved ones who were found in situations like this or murdered have gone on to severe substance abuse problems when there was none before, severe depressions including suicides themselves, mental institutions, divorces, bankruptcy (many people cannot work after things like this).

To the family of Rachel Crites and Rachel Smith, there are many support groups out there. Please email me at marylandmissing@yahoo.com and I will put u in touch with a large network of people who have walked in your shoes before.

Well it is insensitive. Two lives have ended and people are grieving. Why would you want to publicly suggest that somehow everything was sparked by a confrontation with a parent?

Really, salacious speculation should end - how would you feel if these were people you knew?

All good thoughts to their families and friends. They need strength and support now.

For better or worse, salacious speculation is pretty much what the media are all about. This wasn't just a missing persons alert - it was a human interest news story.

If "the news" was limited to things we "need to know," you could eliminate about 3/4 of the content of every news outlet (and 100% of People, Us, etc.).

In this case, the story served a dual purpose in that it alerted people to the fact that the girls were missing.

However, you can't realistically expect people not to want to know more about the personal details that led to this tragedy. It's human nature.

For better or worse.....

Why does the news have to report every detail of this tragedy. What good will it do for the public to know? The only people that need to know are the families of these two girls. It's really no one else's business. Let Rachel and Rachel rest in peace, and show the families some respect.

You are so right. The media has been very quiet about that fact, of course, when the story first broke, I knew right away what was up with these two.

How many of you people need to pull up the chair and apologize for your insensitive comments? It show's that you are goobers who do not deserve license to comment upon the human condition.
Goobers Goobers.

Well said.

How is this an accident when they find that the girls drove well off of Route 9, up a dirt road, further up a logging road, and then turned into an inaccessable area and put a hose from the tail pipe into the back window? That is not an accident. It is a tragic case of suicide most likely caused by an older girl, who was depressed, and put pressure on the younger girl to accompany her in death. People you need to watch carefully who your teenagers are friends with.

I didn't see the word accident or hose or any of that stuff in this article, where are you getting that from?

comment from the author of "The Price of Privilege"

"Sleep on it" as a concept is so important. Everyone runs around thinking that the most important things that kids need are good grades, or good SAT scores or new clothes, or their own car. In my mind, there is no doubt that the most important thing that a teen needs is, regardless how you put it, the ability to "sleep on it", mull things over, find an adult to talk with, take a break, self-control. Teen brains simply are not developed enough to know how to do these things and if I had my way, this would be the most critical skill taught to kids.

I think you teach it, by putting kids in small groups with an adult they have a connection to and have them go over problem after problem, not by telling them the solution, but by listening and constantly coming back to "so what would happen if you did it that way...?" Since the prefrontal cortex is not sufficiently developed to have that skill of prediction come naturally, I think you work on developing it, just like you teach kids most things. Most things are taught because of the connection a child has to his or her parents. They don't stop putting their hand in the cookie jar because cookies are no longer delicious; they stop because you don't like it and that's the motivation to think twice. So you need connection which leads to motivation which leads to the ability to delay actions.
EC

True! Their cerebral cortex definitely is not, which is why we need to teach kids to have a positive outlook and not a negative one.

If I were to take a tour of a certain American state by helicopter, let's say, for example, Ohio and all I ever saw on this tour were slums, run down builidngs, crime in the streets, etc. I am likely to think that Ohio is a terrible place to live. I would never see the beauty that really exists in that state.

If a teenager is exposed to nothing but negativity and is led to believe that there is nothing in their future but misery, dispair, and hopelessness, they are going to find a way to escape, which would be suicide.

Depression feeds on negativity. We need to keep depression from having more negativity to feed on.

When you are young and under your parents rule and control, there are times when the only perceivable solution is escape. We've known and been entertained by this concept for centuries - maybe more. This is classic tragedy. They could not realisticly know or understand that a few more years would have freed them from the structures imposed upon them.

So let them run wild in the streets smoking dope, killing people gangsta style and entertain themselves with casual sex. Good idea.

This is a clear cut case of suicide and the note that one of the girls left behind proves it. And by the way. Whenever there is a missing person the nut cases come out of the woodwork reporting that the person was seen here, there, eveywhere when in fact the nuts want to help but they help in the wrong way, by making more work for the police.

You are so correct. Someone reported that they were in California! Right! Someone reported that they were in a grocery store in Charles Town. Right! Someone reported that they were getting jobs at the race track. Right!

For love of the families, let's LIMIT COMMENTS to those of condolence, love, and care for Rachel Crites' and Rachel Smith's family.

Disagreements among bloggers, speculation on family issues, and conjecture about Ms Crites' and Ms Smith's lives HAVE BEEN INAPPROPRIATE. They are all the more inappropriate from this point forward.

PLEASE DIRECT CARING COMMENTS TO THE FAMILIES, and allow them the dignity of privacy. Let's let kindness prevail. Thank you.

This is a place for people to comment on a news story.

While I feel very bad for the families in this time of tragedy, it's inappropriate to expect people to limit this forum to being a sympathy card.

I agree. This is not an online sympathy card. It's a forum to comment on an important news story. If you don't like people discussing what most likely happened then go read another site or buy a newspaper.

I don't think folks are trying to beat up on the parents. They are just responding to what the NEWS reported. When they indicated that the girls were lesbians it certainly became different than when it was just two missing girls. As for the parent's involvement, when a parent allows her 16 year old to stay overnight in a lesbian relationship, it is the same as if she allowed her to spend the night with her boyfriend. Not many parents would agree that this was an acceptable way to raise a teenager, or is it considered ok when it's same sex sex. When you factor the depression situation in, it becomes more serious. Considering that the note about dying together was published, I would think more intensive searches would have occurred. Oh well, too late to help them but hopefully other parents out there in same situation will pay more attention.

February 3, 2007
re: the comment by Thomas E. : The vehicle may in fact had broken down and the girls were tying to keep warm !!

I too thought that perhaps they were just trying to keep warm.

I also hoped that somehow the girls had been able to hear about all the support they and their families were getting from the community. We will never know, but i hope in my heart they somehow knew about the love and concerns that have been pouring out to them and their parents.

My deepest sadness is for their families, for they can never not live with then choices that thei young daughters made. It is now left for their families to grieve and suffer and live with this private agony. My condolences go to their parents, siblings. their aunts and uncles, grandparents and cousins and their friends.
I spent a lot of time feeling angry today. Having lived through a loved one dying from cancer, I felt angry all day that these seemingly physically healthy girls chose to end their lives. They could not possibly have known "today" what their lives could possibly have become by "tomorrow", or next week, next year or in the next decade!! They were so young/They had so much ahead of them and so much potential. They did not have a terminal disease that gave them no choice. (I know that we all come to this with our own perspective and our own baggage) But still, how could they chosse now what could be tomorrow? People and life change....good and bad, we grow and mature. They had no idea what really could have been ahead of them. I felt so angry that they cheated first themselves, and then their parents and siblings, of knowing them for the rest of their lives/How tragic this all is!
From a very sad mother of a teenager in Maryland.

There really isn't anything else to say except.....I'm so very very sorry for your loss.
Jan
Falls Church, Virginia

Parents of teens especially, please talk and spend time with them. Even if they act like they don't want to spend time with you, then force the issue.

Let them know that your love and commitment to them is relentless. Teens desperately adult, and especially Parental love and stability.

These girls didn't just want to die. They wanted to incite as much alarm as possible within their families and the community in the process. In other words, the girls wanted their deaths to make a public statement.

In particular, by choosing a remote location to die, they ensured their missing status would become front-page news, days before their bodies would be found. Then once their bodies were found, they knew the story's headline worthiness would be sustained for several more days, while the public that had been searching for them reacted to their suicides.

One of the girls was of majority age, while the other was a minor. (18 versus 16 years) I therefore have less sympathy for the older girl because she was criminally liable for being intimant with a minor (statutory rape) and for encouraging the minor to commit suicide along with her, assuming she had undue influence over the minor my virtue of her older age. Had they lived, therefore; the 18-year-old deserved to go to jail.

I have sympathy for surviving family members, but I have no sympathy for the girls - especially the 18-year-old, who apparently committed statutory rape.

"They wanted to incite as much alarm as possible within their families and the community in the process. In other words, the girls wanted their deaths to make a public statement.

In particular, by choosing a remote location to die, they ensured their missing status would become front-page news, days before their bodies would be found. Then once their bodies were found, they knew the story's headline worthiness would be sustained for several more days, while the public that had been searching for them reacted to their suicides"

Did they tell you? Did they appear to you in a dream? You seem so certain about their intention - you either must be psychic or just a complete dick. I think it's the latter.

Your ignorance is appalling.

Friends and family of these girls read this blog. I think that now is not a time for recriminations, but instead for sorrow. Please don't rub salt into the wounds of two families who are missing teenage daughters who had their whole lives ahead of them.

Rachel Crites is not guilty of statutory rape. Where are you getting your information from? You need to seriously reconsider your sources. We aren't even positive that Rachel Crites' apparently romantic feelings for Rachel Smith were returned in the same way. Of course, Rachel Smith loved Rachel Crites, but it may not have been romantic or sexual.

That's about the most pathetic assessment of a tragic situation that I've ever read. I really can't even believe that I would stoop so low to as to even comment on such ignorant drivel. Any more cop/sociologist/psycholgist/judge/juries out there?

I wonder how you'd feel if your kids had, well I hope no woman would have kids with you.

Really.

Having lost my younger sister to suicide in 2001, I know what the families are going through. We need to remember that suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death among young teens and adults. Parents talk to your children and look out for things that seem out of the ordinary. We as a society need to reach out to those who look like they need help. There are suicide hotlines and other internet resources. If you think your child is suicidal you as a parent can call and get help, about how to approach the subject with your child.

Research has shown that individuals who attempt suicide will often try again until successful. We need to get the help and support to those who have attempted and let them know that there is help, love, hope and support at the end of the tunnel and throughout the journey in the tunnel. It might not seem like it at the time, but it's there.

I find much of this disgusting. Our neighbor and my 13 yr old son's best friend was killed in an ATV accident 3 yrs ago. We saw him and another friend drive past, at legal speeds. Less than 3 mins later I heard the call come across the radio for the ATV accident with injuries. I respond less than a 1/4 mile from my house. There was an injured dog, My sons friend unresponsive, the other friend in bad shape and the other passenger walking. The accident happened in front of an EMT's house. We worked for 25 min's trying to breath life back into my son's friend, a boy that had spent the night at my house more times that I could count. I drove them to football practice for years….A helicopter was flown in while my kids watched and his Mother and Dad cried for me to please save him. We loaded him in the ambulance and his friend that had severe injuries into the other we headed to the local hospital with my son best friend and took the older boy to the helicopter to be flown to shock trauma. My son's best friend was dead. At the hospital I cried with and held his family….. A dog ran out in front of him and he hit the dog and lost control of the ATV and hit a telephone pole.Hhe did not have his helmet properly buckled and it came off before impact.

The stories in print and at the schools where, he was racing and hit a car, he was running from police and hit a tree, he was racing a 2nd ATV and the crashed together….There were articles about what kind of parents would let a 13 yr old have an ATV? Why was he on the road? 13 yr old dies - Change ATV Laws - parents won't protect their children…

The press called our house to talk to my son. The kids at school asked and asked and asked for details of my son and his sister, was he racing, who's car did he hit, was there a lot of blood, Adults asked me and his parent. They were even cruel enough to yell at the parents that day of the accident "well that what you get letting him ride one of those things"

His family has never recovered they have since moved and my son has suffered with depression and had to be removed from school for a year. I have laid awake worrying that I would end up like the parents you dare to judge!!!!!!!!!!

Hindsight is 20/20 but even then when you are on the outside you think you know the facts but many things are private and much of what I have heard can be taken out of context and much is inferred. Leave the families to grieve and offer prayers and support. DO something useful like hug you child and let them talk while you shut your mouth and LISTEN !!!!!!!!

"They were even cruel enough to yell at the parents that day of the accident "well that what you get letting him ride one of those things"

That's cruel? Where was the adult supervision? Obviously the kids had an accident, racing or not, and from your story, it doesn't appear they were riding in a sanctioned ATV area, either.

So, why was the kid's buckle undone, and where wethe adults to see how they were riding these machines (that easily outwieghed them)? I'm an avid motocrosser, not an alarmist, but those kids died in an accident (not suicide), and for all I know, it was preventable (lack of supervision).

Reading all of this is amazing. All teenagers go thru trying times trying to figure out who they are, and, when they think they really doing something bad that would upset their family, thoughts of how to get out of it run rampant. This could have turned out different if there was only one in the scenario. Suicidal people usually make comments to others as an after thought of their plans, however, in this situation, they had each other to plan things out, which closed the door for any alarms to go off to anyone. I do not blame the parents on any of this. Mainly because I know what I put my own parents thru at that age. And, I am sure many of you who want to put the blame on someone doesn't remember how awful of a time being a teenager is in one's life.

With Deepest Sympathy for ALL invovled and knew these girls,
Lea

What does all of that have to do with this case?

Have you ever played the game where one person whispers something to the next, who repeats it to the next, and again, and so on, and when the last person relates what he/she has heard, it's completely different than what was originally whispered?

The families will get more facts than they will ever want to know. "Facts" expressed otherwise will be no more than whispers.

That's what it has to do with this case.

As a resident of Jefferson County, I've been following the search status since early on and it broke my heart to learn from my son that these girls were found within minutes of us. His words..."So close to us, yet so far..." As with many others, it left us both thinking sadly "If only..."

Our sympathies and prayers are with the families. The girls are truly safe now. Peace to all.

I'm sorry but after reading all there is to read about these two girls I'm not so convinced that Rachel S was in the same place mentally as Rachel C. We are all assuming that both girls knew about what Rachel C wrote in her diary and that they both wanted the same thing.

I'm not so convinced especially after reading descriptions of both girls from a co-worker on here and from reading over and over again that Rachel C had a history of depression. Speculation on my part, but I'm really not convinced that Rachel S was in the same place as Rachel C.

When someone is bent on suicide they wont think twice about taking someone else with them. If they are deeply disturbed they can make up all sorts of fantasies and all of this means nothing becaseu it's too late. They're gone and they're families are hurting beyond what most of us can ever begin to imagine.
JL

The question is...

Why do we need a tragedy like this to alarm us about Teen Depression?
Parents should have paid attention to it in the first place.

It's really not uncommon to see teen depression these days, especially in schools such as Wootton with high competitive drive. There's a need to be perfect, to get 4.0 GPA, to join a bahzillion clubs, get 2400 on the SATs, start deciding on college, sports, extracurricular activities, chores, homework, 7 AP courses, that next test to ace--- the list goes on.

Seriously folks, high school is not what it used to be...

Well, my mother tells me that even when she yells at me, it's because she just wants the best for me...so, keep the connection alive at all times with your teenager please.

By the way, I read this article on TIMES magazine about meditation-- it supposedly alleviates depression a bit.

Anyways, my sympathies to the families...I'm sorry for your loss.

Listen to your kids (and other kids) they need someone to listen to them. There are worse things besides good grades and other items we harp on the kids for. Listen, listen and listen again.

cb

Why haven't the authorities told us whether there was some evidence indicating it was suicide or not, such as a hose from the exhaust? If not, the car should be checked out to determine if it might be an accident.

If there is a possibility it was an accident, this would certainly ease the minds of the family. (I suppose they have told the family, but those who have followed this story would like to know too, since we feel such emphathy with them).

Usually news doesn't report about suicide due to fear of other following. So, I don't think they will say more then they have in fear of people copying them... using the same method.

Mute at this point, but I need to say it...

In reading all of this and all the news articles I could find I would not jump to conclusions and assume that Rachel S was in the same frame of mind as Rachel C. Only one of the girls had a psych history. Only one of the girls attempted suicide before. Only one of the girls wrote their intentions. I've not read anything that suggests that Rachel S felt the same way that Rachel C did.

When people are determined to commit suicide they can fantasize all sorts of things...some will even attempt to take others with them. I'm having a hard time believing that Rachel S wanted to end her life too.

JL

but she could have seen RC as a leader and someone to look up to.

RS may not have known fully RC's intention.

It is horrible for both families involved.

only because of the post I read on here from a co-worker. RS didn't sound to me to be a follower. She was RC's "ANGEL" according to RC's dad.

Unfortunately it's easy to label an incident like this a suicide pact instead of an accident or a suicide/homicide. Even if no one had any indication from RS that she felt the same way as RC. It's easy for everyone to make it look like a Romeo and Juliet tragedy. Bodies found. Case closed.

Like I said before -- none of it really matters at this point.
JL

I do feel and give my deepest sympathy to the family and friends of these two girls. However, I just wonder if they had planned on coming back...if that was halted by the fact that something so personal of Rachel Crites' was put out there in the open. It was 4:30AM when I first heard the news mentioning the entry in her diary; I was sickened and angry...I wanted to but didn't know if I should call NBC-4 and give them my two cents. Okay, if her dad did need to make a point by giving this information to the police...okay...but did they have to give it to the media for everyone? They (the media) didn't have to quote her diary but simply say they found some disturbing evidence they may be in danger. Anyway, hopefully, someone will think first before making this mistake...should they be faced with something similar. If indeed they wanted to be together forever, then let their deaths not be in vein, cremate and keep their ashes together. My deepest sympathy to families and friends and those who, like I, cared enough to keep up with the news in hopes of a good ending.

But that's just me. I doesn't matter what we think, it doesn't matter who led to whom to what. In the end, there are 2 young girls who are gone and a bevy of people who love them who are hurting beyond belief.

I looked at Rachel C - breathtakingly beautiful - and then you look at her family. (Easier to google "Crites" than "Smith"...) A consultant mother, a defense contractor father, an older athlete brother who's at Georgia Tech... she probably felt like an underachiever. She lived in Italy but didn't like it, they've lived in 20 different places by the time she's 18. She probably felt abandoned by her own mother, then by her stepmother.

God, for a teenager, that's a lot. She probably just needed someone to love her, someone to be there, someone to hug. Rachel S, on the other hand, seemed more grounded. More stable family life. If anyone could make such a decision with certitude, it would be Rachel S.

Again, speculations. Just speculations.

I wish they had waited another 90 days, just like the characters in Nick Hornby's "A Long Way Down". First loves fade, even 2nd and 3rd loves. All the cliches about pain and time healing them... they're all true. I wish they had believed it then.

As parents of teenagers we should all learn from this Tragedy. Rachel Crites went to high school with Rachel Smith (teachers don't have rosters any more?) Where was the high school's security? I guess Rachel Crites blended in, but for a whole semester? As parents we need to talk to our teens even if they seem not to want to. We have to know where they are and know their friends. As parents this can be time consuming and difficult but well worth the outcome.

"Let their deaths not be in vein" Their deaths should be given no importance publicly as it condones the action....the suicide....if in fact there was a suicide pact. Taking your own life or anyone elses life in this manner is always a vain act. Granting a wish to keep their ashes together is condoning the behavior. No way.

If they did have a suicide pact every positive that could be attached to it needs to be gotten rid of immediately. So if other kids get the notion that this is the only way to get what they want we should reinforce it? We should let them know that they will get what they want in the end, to be buried with their "true love"? No way. It's bad, the whole thing is bad, bad, bad.

Besides in RS's religion their is no cremation.

Why are you so hateful and opinionated? Why is it that all of your comments posted are reduces to antisemitism? Your comments are hurtful and ignorant.

Kids don't perform well when you offer them no way out.
There is more to this story than what we are allowed to know.
Two girls. Someone did not accept what they were doing in their life. They felt they had no where to turn. This could have been avoided.

It's better to have kids that do no agree with your way of life than to have kids that come up with a solution of their own. I suspect they felt they had no way out.

Talk to your kids as if they had a brain. You may be surprised at how smart they are. Every human deserves to love how they want to love. You don't have to agree. You just need to respect other's desires. It is their life, not yours.

Since I have counted at least five posts where people want to know the "rest of the story" well here it is;

Obviously they were gay which is fine. No problem there. One family or both finds out and disapproves no matter what you read in the paper about "two peas in a pod" and "the two Rachels..blah blah". One or both tell them to stay away from each other because they are horrifed that friends and family will find out about their gay lifestyle. The older one suggests a suicide pact, she leaves a note in her diary about being buried next to her "true love", they drive to Charles Town, buy gas, go to a remote place in the hills, attach a hose to the exhaust, and are dead before the families even report them missing. Forget about accidents and trying to keep warm.

Some might find this disturbing but many high schools have gay and lesbian clubs which are allowed by the school system and they meet during school hours. No problem there. Some gay kids need support. But when they are told its ok to come out and show everyone they are gay and as a result it gets back to the family then you have cases like this. Far better to wait until you are an adult before your family finds out.

Fred,

Unless you are intimately familiar with either, actually I should say BOTH, of these families you have NO CLUE as to what may or may not have happened within the families. You lay out this "Romeo & Juliet" scenario which may or may not be anywhere new reality. Unless you know these families, and I REALLY suspect you DON'T, sometimes it's better to keep your own issues and past problems to yourself and stop projecting them onto other people.

If this is something that happened to you in your past, then I am sorry... but you have no basis for telling the "rest of the story"!

Something deeper, as Fred suggests, was happening.


Maybe there will be better outlets for teens trapped in a situation like this, as an outcome of what has transpired.

One was deeply disturbed.

Hey Roger. Continue to keep your head buried in the sand. It's obvious you don't want to know the truth.

and you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. As Rachel Smith's sister, I'm pretty sure I'm qualified to make this statement. This had nothing to do with their sexuality, I don't care what anyone says. You need a good psychiatrist, because I think you are dealing with some issues from the past yourself.

From the Washington Post 2/7/2007:

"On Friday, February 2, 2007, RACHEL LACY CRITES of Gaithersburg, MD, beloved daughter of Kathryn Cornelius and Troy A. Crites; loving sister of Trevor Crites and Gianluca Bastia; granddaughter of Mary Ellen and Leo Cornelius; stepdaughter of Regina E. Dugan and Norberto Bastia. Also survived by numerous other loving relatives and friends. Friends may call at DeVOL FUNERAL HOME, 10 E. Deer Park Dr., Gaithersburg, MD on Friday, from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m. A Memorial Mass will be offered at St. Martin's Catholic Church, Frederick Rd. and Summit Ave., Gaithersburg, MD on Saturday, February 10 at 10:30 a.m. Interment private. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made in Rachel's name to The Montgomery County Crisis Center, 1301 Piccard Dr.,Rockville, MD 20850, Attn: Jean Burgess, 240-777-4533. Please sign the family guestbook at
www.devolfuneralhome.com"

"SMITH
RACHEL SAMANTHA SMITH (Age 16)
August 9, 1990 - January 2007
Of North Potomac, MD. Cherished daughter of Marian and Paul Smith; sister of Lindsay and Jason; beloved granddaughter of Sally and David Kera and Sydel and Jerry Smith. Also survived by many loving aunts, uncles, cousins and great friends. Rachel was an amazing person with a heart of gold who had a strong love for animals. She was a highly motivated student at Thomas S. Wootton High School and a member of the Poetry Club and B'nai Brith Youth Organization. Funeral services will be held on Wednesday, February 7, 2007 at 10:30 a.m. at Congregation B'nai Tzedek, 10621 S. Glen Rd., Potomac, MD. Interment to follow at the Garden of Remembrance, Clarksburg, MD. Family will be observing Shiva at the family residence on Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday evenings. In memory of Rachel, contributions may be made to the Congregation B'nai Tzedek Eternal Light Fund. Arrangements entrusted to EDWARD SAGEL FUNERAL DIRECTION, INC., Rockville, MD, 301-217-9400."

I find it very interesting that contributions for RC should go to "The Montgomery County Crisis Center"....says much.

For sure I don't believe that RS wanted to take her own life or even that she had a romantic involvment with RC. I'm convinced it was a murder suicide. The only "one true love" was in RC's head. SELFISH and very sick!!!!!

RS could have gotten away. It wasn't a murder suicide. Honestly, Janice L. - why even say that? They were in the front seat of the car, she could have gotten out, ran, fought, whatever - if she didn't want to.

For reason we don't know and might never know - they BOTH wanted to die that day, that moment. If they only knew, things do get better.

You never know what their relationship was, but it was strong for them to run off together and do this together.

My only wish is that they would had talked to family, friends or anyone more. Whatever their reason was, there would have been a way to make this better. For those who think, will in one year they could have gotten a place together - remember when you are that young a year feels like forever.

Can't everyone as a whole try to learn from this, be more open mided, and learn some understanding? Wouldn't this be a much better place for everyone???

To Lindsay - I'm so sorry for what you are dealing with. There's nothing anyone can say to help. Anything I have said on here, I have tried very hard to not make assumptions & watch what I say.

To those who tried to say something about the Jewish religion... Catholics are usually harder on gays then Jews, so don't assume because they were Jewish they didn't accept. Maybe one day the family will speak more and tell more... I actually hope they do, so we all can learn & know how to better correct these problems.

I BEG EVERYONE TO LEARN ACCEPTANCE OF EVERYONE, TO UNDERSTAND OTHERS, AND NOT TO JUDGE... BUT TO LOVE EACH OTHER. STOP THIS HATE PLEASE!!!

Why are you so convinced that they both knew what was going on? What if they pulled off the side of the road to rest? What if one had intent and the other had no clue and just thought they were taking a rest and fell asleep? what if neither one had intent and accidentally caused something to happen. We have no description of how the carbon monoxide got in the car, what items were found, how they were both found....not that I want to know either. Some things are best left alone.

There are at least two ways that I know of that carbon monoxide can get into the car and one of those ways the other person wouldn't have known about. Many people intentionally and accidentally die this way. Oh, and before people speculate about why I know, I worked with many FF's.

Many people die of carbon monoxide poisoning at home while they're asleep. This is why gas companies add an odor to natural gas. So you can smell it before you're over come by the fumes.

Why did I say it? Because the story does not sound right to me. There is another side missing. There were no signs from one sign. That doesn't make sense to me. I'm not looking to blame or to be hateful. I'm also not so quick to lable teenagers something they may not have wanted to be labled. Labeling it a suicide pact takes the focus off the police who got many tips and admitted they did not follow all the leads. Saying that they were lovers and that it may have been an unrequited love makes more news, more news, makes more money....THat's why!
JL

If the police ruled it suicide without questioning it more, then there was something found at the scene to show it was. Like you said, you don't need to know what.

Just because the other side isn't speaking, doesn't mean she didn't feel the same. Maybe she didn't write in a journal... so there's nothing else to go on. If there were sleeping pills given to her, the police would find out.

Just because it doesn't sound right to you doesn't mean in any way shape or form that there is more to it.

Try to understand things maybe you don't. My biggest wish is that people try to understand others more, listen to others, and maybe understand that they effect others.

I hate living in a mean hurtful world and would love to see a more understanding one.

If you do work with firefighters, (as my sister is dating one) then you know they are not quick to rule it a suicide without reason. Take the story for what it is, two young beautiful girls killed themselves over something more then we know.

No need to blame anyone here. Please do not disparage the deaths of these 2 girls any further by your hurtful comments. If any, I think it's the Smith family who didn't approve of the relationship, and most probably drove their alpha daughter to commit suicide. Why?

1. The comment from Smith's older sister denying anything about sexuality
2. The silence of the Smith parents throughout this ordeal
3. The mother works at the synagogue pre-school, for crying out loud!
4. The non-mention of Crites at Smith's funeral yesterday
5. Gut feel

I will bet BIG that a Smith civil lawsuit against the Crites is forthcoming. They are angry, they are thinking like you, they want someone /something to blame and they want revenge. Instead of learning and forgiving, they want revenge.

Plus the Crites have money. So there.

But I am stopping here, because my speculations MEAN NOTHING. My prayers do, and that's we owe these 2 families.

What does mom working at a pre-school synagogue have to do with anything? The Smiths are Conservative Jews. They are "Conservative" people. Jews have very good family values.

Typically as a community they adore their children. Children are one of the most precious things G-D could give, besides life. They are not known to turn their children away for being gay as you continue to assume.

They're not fanatics about their religion. So do tell, what does mom having to work at a Jewish pre-school have to do with anything? More speculation about something you know nothing about? Lay it on us all, enlighten us, please.....

The insensitive and frankly anti-Semitic comments have no place here. The poster has absolutely no idea of the actual facts on which her comments are based, and there is no justification or reason to make them.

In fact, since "Christina" concludes that "my speculations mean nothing", she admits that they are completely groundless. Why then, other to be hurtful, was this message posted and why was it not rejected by WTOP?

Christina, how dare you blame the Jewish religion for what happened?! The Smiths did NOT "drive" their daughter and her friend to commit suicide. As for their silence, maybe they needed privacy while they worried. Who are you to say they are angry and want revenge?! The only true statement you made was that your speculations mean nothing. As for your "gut feel", I think your comments came from the terminus of your gut. Excuse me, there are two termini, so I should specify. I didn't mean the oral one.

Loudoun Times Mirror, Times Community Newspaper 2/6/07

"Speculation as to why they ran away lingers.

Some believe the pair may have been in a romantic relationship that their parents did not approve of. However, Montgomery County Police investigators never confirmed this, spokeswoman Lucille Baur said. Both girls labeled themselves as straight on their MySpace profiles on the networking Web site www.myspace.com .

Baur said that reports of the girls making a suicide pact are also speculation. But Troy Crites, father of one of the victims, released one of his daughter's diary entries, which reads:

"Wherever I end up laying, whether buried or cremated, I want to stay with my true love, buried next to her. This is my choice. I'm sorry."

Police investigated the note as an indication Crites may have harmed herself, Baur said.

Crites, who suffered from depression in the past and was still being treated when she disappeared, also posted a disturbing poem on her MySpace site dated May 13, 2006.

"Have you ever been haunted by an angel," the poem reads, "who sings songs of the night in your head. You know he is warm and gentle, but his face is frighteningly dead."

Both Rachels were friends of my daughter. They both have been to my home on their way to the movies or shopping at the Rio. Rachel and Rachel were both sweethearts, respectful and well mannered. The smiles and giggles from the three of them could melt the coldest of hearts. Your daughters' friendship will be something my daughter will cherish forever.

Please ignore the callous and the needy people who feel they must create drama in their lowly lives by disgracing the memories of Rachel and Rachel.

My family will keep you in our thoughts.

Christinia C, Why do you think you can make those assumptions? Do you even know them?

Imagine if this was your daughter, and someone was bashing your family. No family will blame the other. It was their daughters' choices and there is nothing the familes can do. Who says that they are seeking revenge instead of learning and forgetting? You sound like you are certain that you know exactly what the Smith's are thinking right now. Well do you? Why are you saying such hurtful things, when you have no proof.
And I agree with Janice, Conservative Jewish families do have good values. Plus, teenagers spend most of the time with their friends. Who knows, maybe their friends and peers were the ones making them feel excluded from everyone else. The families need comfort right now, so just stop pointing fingers, and give the family the support they need.
Rest in Peace, Rachels.

I agree with Fred, I think the older girl was probably depressed and talked the other girl who was easily led into this suicide. They could have moved into an apartment with each other within a year once the girl turned 17, so what did they kill themselves if their only motive was to be with one another. I agree watch who your kids are talking to, ask questions and get involved with their lives. I feel bad for the parents, this was a tough one, apparently they might not have given too many clues. Well they shouldn't be buried together, in fact if I was voting on this they wouldn't see each other again until the mother dies (many years for now) and gets to see and talk with her daughter first. I maybe would not let them see each other period. This really is very selfish act on the part of both kids. Spoiled american children who don't realize how good they have it. Well I hope they learn the hard way.

you are one mean, racist person. It is not just american children who are spoiled.

Can you all just stop talking about this and leave the families alone? It's really none of your business. They don't need this right now.

That's why I'd rather avoid most people - they are insensitive, cruel swine. Would that similar circumstances attend them....

Hey Rachel H,

Jews do not cremate. That's not a hateful thing to say, it's just the way it is, it's a fact. Jews are encouraged to speak their minds, and can be opinionated at a very young age and so much more.

Most importantly, they are encouraged to love, love g-d, themselves, and the life given to them, as well as family and the land they came from. It takes a Lot for a Jew to turn family away, no matter how whatever they may be. Oh and don't get me worng, just like everyone else, there are a few rotten apples in the mix. I am not antisemitic and certainly no self hater. I'm against stupidity.

Rachel H and Christine C.

There's no hate in what I've written. Hate and antisemitic remarks are when people imply that a Jewish family is going to sue a non-Jewish family because the other family has "money". That kind of thinking reeks of antisemitism, stereotyping and plain ole bigotry. Making a statement about a family member working in a Synagogue and again implying that there must be something wrong with that is hateful, hurtful, ignorant disgusting and stupid.

I have a few opinions about how this whole thing played out simply because the square pegs presented by everyone just didn't fit into the round holes everyone wants them to fit into. I'm certain there are a lot of holes missing from the story.

Shalom
Oh, and if you don't like what I write, don't read it.

I accidently posted as a reply to you when I was upset by what Christina had posted. However, in saying that...I would say that you may be unneccesarily aggressive. If you post anything in a public forum you cannot tell people not read what you write. How can anyone decide whether they like what you write or not unless they read it. In truth I had no problem with what you wrote.

You don't need to explain the Jewish religion to me.

Shalom.

Janice, I'm with you. Christina's pointing out that Mrs. Smith works in a Jewish preschool was bad enough, but her "for crying out loud" was over the top.

And why would the Smiths want to go after the Criteses, just because "they have money"? I thought Jews were supposed to have all the money. (sarcasm)

Shabbat shalom, Janice.

I'm sorry I missed this. Thank you.
JL

I was a total cretin and a poor excuse for a human being and I am very sorry for my comments - a reaction to Janice calling RC a "murderer" - but a poor, idiotic reaction nevertheless. I was so out of line I should be somewhere in space by now.

My sincerest apologies, and my prayers to the families of the Rachels. Nothing can take away the pain, nothing can bring them back. Morons like me confound things with really idiotic remarks.

In Paradisum, Rachel & Rachel.

Christina, it is not for me to forgive you or not to forgive you, but I have a better feeling toward you after your apology. Just let this be a learning experience for you. You're not a bad person.

After all this time, you probably won't see this post, but if you do, know that it's ok to make mistakes so long as you own up to them and correct them.

Janice you are either the most naive person who ever lived or you just haven't followed this case. They didn't "pull over to the side of the road". Route 9 in that area is remote but fairly heavily traveled. They took a turn off of Route 9, drove up a dirt road, pulled off the dirt road and drove further up a hillside until they found a very secluded place to die. If it had not been for off-the-road vehicles who accidentely found the car they might have been there for months or until next hunting season.

You don't take a length of hose and attach it to the tailpipe and run it through the window without the other knowing about it. If you believe otherwise then you watch too many soap operas. The police have stopped releasing the method of suicide for the simple reason that it gives other people ideas.

Hmmmm, can you play it out for all us? PLEASE. You're such a, such a....what is the word I'm looking for.......ah, I know......a putz.

Washington Blade.com
LOCAL NEWS
Teens’ suicides draw attention to at-risk youth (Gay)
Md. police say no evidence to confirm students were couple

By LOU CHIBBARO JR.
Friday, February 09, 2007

Montgomery County police said they could find no evidence to confirm the sexual orientation of the two missing teenage girls from Maryland who were found dead in Virginia on Feb. 2 in a presumed double suicide, following nearly three weeks of online speculation that they might have been lovers.....

from the mother of a missing woman in MD...

On March 4, 2007 the families of missing adults and children in Maryland will hold a remembrance service at the Glen Burnie Moose Lodge, 1911 Crain Highway, Glen Burnie, MD 21061. This will mark two years since the disappearance of our daughter Tracey Gardner-Tetso. As a mother of a missing adult I would like to request your attendance at this service.

Your support for this remembrance service will help give hope to the families of the missing in knowing we have your support. Several family members will speak about their loved one(s) who are missing or have been found.

The service will begin at 2:00pm until 4:00pm Sunday, March 4, 2007, refreshments will follow.



Sincerely,

Cathy Gardner
Mother of Tracey Leigh Gardner-Tetso

Here’s what I think happened based on all the evidence presented:

1 The girls did not have a romantic involvement. I believe RS was straight. RC I question however. Looking at the photos of her I see some of an amazingly attractive young woman. In other photos she looks just like a boy. I think she was unsure of her sexuality.

2) RS did not commit suicide. It just doesn’t make any sense. From what I could see she had no history of suicide attempts and no reason to do it at all. RC, on the other hand, had attempted suicide in the past. And it was RC who left behind a message. RS didn’t leave anything and from what I read about her, that’s totally out of character.

So what I think happened was this:

RC was in love with RS. RS was her ‘guardian angel’ and vulnerable people commonly fall in love with their rescuers. RC may not have directly told RS that she loved her, but RS may have said things like there was a boy at school that she liked, RS may have said something that set RC off and made RC realize that her love for RS was in vain. And in her weakened depressed condition she felt that this was just someone else in her life that she loved who she couldn’t have. So she decided to kill herself. And she decided to take RS with her so nobody else could have RS and the two could be buried together.

They probably took a ride that day. RS had no clue what was going to happen. There were reports that the girls had been seen in the area before so RC may have scouted for a perfect spot beforehand. I doubt if there is any way she would have found this road that night (the 19th) just like that.

They stopped at a 7-11 in WV for gas. RC probably told RS to call home and say that they were going to go to the movies that night in Georgetown. RS probably thought that that was exactly what they were going to do.

Now here’s the tricky part. I believe that RC went in to pay for the gas while RS stayed in the car to call home. I believe that RC may have bought drinks: water, soda, juice, whatever. I also believe that before she gave RS her drink, she added some sleeping tablets or something to it.

RS fell asleep after they left the gas station. RS was asleep when RC attached the hose to the tailpipe or whatever she did to contain the carbon monoxide. RS was asleep and never woke up again.

The initial reports say that the girls died from carbon monoxide poisoning. It will be a few weeks before the toxology reports come back to say if there was anything else in RS’ system.

Again this is only conjecture on my part. My heart goes out to all affected by this tragedy.

I am the mother of the Kaela Wegenr, 15 (2 teens commit suicide in South Riding VA Jan. 3rd 2005), Seems like a bad dream replayed. I can only say that the last two years have been the worst for my family and the struggle to understand why is a question that will forever go unanswered. The love/suicide pact that my daughter died in along with Tony Holt 20, seemed so unnecessary at the time and at times still does but now I have a deeper understanding of their feelings. Both felt trapped in a no win situation. Kaela and Tony had been told by an older friend of Tony's that running away with a 15 year old would result in an arrest for kidnapping, having a relationship exposed with a 15 year old had other consequences. Feeling desperate and trapped, the two commited suicide. Maybe more than the focus on the negative side of this terrible tragedy of losing two beautiful girls, we should focus on support for teens with any and all issues that cause them deep concern. I can honestly say I didn't see any signs of depression in Kaela but I now see how torn her heart really was. The girls felt they had no choice with the circumstances of their relationship and just like my daughter, they chose to die. My deepest sorrows and sympathies go out to both of the families and I will pray for your healing as I continue to pray for my own. I am truly sorry you too have lost children to suicide.